Lee Radford : Sun Feb 14, 2016 12:16 am  

I know we're only a couple of games in, but Hull are looking pretty impressive and playing some exciting rugby. Lee Radford was a rookie coach who during the last couple of seasons has led a inconsistent mid-table team at best. Could the patience and belief invested in him by those at Hull finally be paying off?

Do we as fans not need to be a little more patient with Cunningham? I know some people will point to the fact that he inherited a champion team, but those with longer memories may remember a frustrating 1st season under Brown, followed by us somehow dragging ourselves over the line in 2014 with great spirit but certainly not a great playing style to watch.

I'm as frustrated as everyone else at the minute, but are we definitely sure he's never going to succeed as a coach given time?

Re: Lee Radford : Sun Feb 14, 2016 3:25 am  

Twentyman wrote:

I know we're only a couple of games in, but Hull are looking pretty impressive and playing some exciting rugby. Lee Radford was a rookie coach who during the last couple of seasons has led a inconsistent mid-table team at best. Could the patience and belief invested in him by those at Hull finally be paying off?

Do we as fans not need to be a little more patient with Cunningham? I know some people will point to the fact that he inherited a champion team, but those with longer memories may remember a frustrating 1st season under Brown, followed by us somehow dragging ourselves over the line in 2014 with great spirit but certainly not a great playing style to watch.

I'm as frustrated as everyone else at the minute, but are we definitely sure he's never going to succeed as a coach given time?

I dont think Cunningham is a bad coach, I think you just lack proper leaders in your team, I posted on another thread that you guys should make Walmsley captain as for me he is the only one who didnt fall apart when you were under the cosh
I think youve got enough quality to challenge the big teams in season games but I wonder how you'll cope in pressure matches
Your coach is definitely doing better than ours did in his first couple of seasons, but like ours did hell need to validate himself somehow, I think he needs a final if hes gonna shut his doubters up or would top 4 be good enough?

Re: Lee Radford : Sun Feb 14, 2016 8:13 am  

Twentyman wrote:

I know we're only a couple of games in, but Hull are looking pretty impressive and playing some exciting rugby. Lee Radford was a rookie coach who during the last couple of seasons has led a inconsistent mid-table team at best. Could the patience and belief invested in him by those at Hull finally be paying off?

Do we as fans not need to be a little more patient with Cunningham? I know some people will point to the fact that he inherited a champion team, but those with longer memories may remember a frustrating 1st season under Brown, followed by us somehow dragging ourselves over the line in 2014 with great spirit but certainly not a great playing style to watch.

I'm as frustrated as everyone else at the minute, but are we definitely sure he's never going to succeed as a coach given time?

I like Radford as a person from what I've seen of him. Looks a very honest, hard working down to earth guy but I'm still not convinced on him as a coach. Hull do look good in the first two games and I tipped them as my dark horses for silverware but it's only two games in and that doesn't make him a good coach yer. If we are being honest, Hull have been shocking past two seasons.

Hull have spent big and brought in some very good experienced players. I think hull pack looks just about the best in super league this year. It's big, it's very experienced and they can play rugby too. I still question them in the halves when it's a tight game and need that special play by either Pryce or Sneyed, I'm not convinced they can pull it off.

Saints have recruited very very poor this year. We've also got players who don't know what position they play and it's effecting us.

I can see a very good Hull season this year and I can see them finishing above us.

Re: Lee Radford : Sun Feb 14, 2016 8:24 am  

Twentyman wrote:

I know we're only a couple of games in, but Hull are looking pretty impressive and playing some exciting rugby. Lee Radford was a rookie coach who during the last couple of seasons has led a inconsistent mid-table team at best. Could the patience and belief invested in him by those at Hull finally be paying off?

Do we as fans not need to be a little more patient with Cunningham? I know some people will point to the fact that he inherited a champion team, but those with longer memories may remember a frustrating 1st season under Brown, followed by us somehow dragging ourselves over the line in 2014 with great spirit but certainly not a great playing style to watch.

I'm as frustrated as everyone else at the minute, but are we definitely sure he's never going to succeed as a coach given time?

We definitely should have given him a bit more slack last season, this season its a bit too early to be a bit over critical as not every game is going to be "salford standard". I would rather see where we are 5 or 6 games in, two things worry me at the moment his team selection and match day mental preparation prior to kick off.

The poster above is correct in that we don't have a couple of strong leaders to keep us focussed, KC has mentioned quite a few times last season and the Salford game that he was disappointed in his senior players, this is where you need a strong assertive coach and not sending Wellens bawling on the touchline when the game is lost,, he does seem to struggle in this department and already been quoted "We will respond get things right for next week", we will wait and see.
The one thing I can't get my head around is how Sean Long is used in our coaching, we believe he is our defence coach which is probably his worse game skill, we lack a lot of attacking ideas and options, if Sean Long improved the Salford attack a few seasons back why can't he do it for this club.

I struggled post season to purchase my season ticket for this year because most of last season was boring, so I will probably see where we are after the Easter weekend to see if both players and coach can raise expectations.

Re: Lee Radford : Sun Feb 14, 2016 9:10 pm  

It's more about recruitment than taking time for a coach bed in. Hull are trying to improve whilst we are trying to stand still cheaply.

Re: Lee Radford : Mon Feb 15, 2016 10:22 am  

I have been sceptical of Lee Radford as an FC fan, but fair play he has brought in some good players (with the help of Motu Tony and his contacts down under)

A few things to praise him for though:

Signing Tuimavave as a centre. He has been a Stand Off/Full Back in his career but he looks very classy at centre - very alike to Joel Moon so that has been a bit of a masterstroke.
Getting rid of Westerman and Lineham. Don't get me wrong, decent players, but off the field and at training they didn't have the professionalism that he wanted and we look a closer unit this year as a result
Development of Josh Bowden who looks a different player this year

Early days but starting to come round to him! Have faith with Cunningham