2015 Rule changes : Fri Dec 19, 2014 5:10 pm  

Seems reasonable. Glad they've gone to the aussie try/no try ruling from the referee before it's sent to the video ref. http://www.loverugbyleague.com/news_167 ... -2015.html?

Seems reasonable. Glad they've gone to the aussie try/no try ruling from the referee before it's sent to the video ref. http://www.loverugbyleague.com/news_167 ... -2015.html?

Re: 2015 Rule changes : Fri Dec 19, 2014 5:14 pm  

OK I know its is Friday but I don't understand what the Sin Bin change means?

The Video Ref change is long overdue.

Re: 2015 Rule changes : Fri Dec 19, 2014 5:48 pm  

I seem to be in a minority on this, but I can't see any point in the video ref rule at all. What does it actually achieve? If anything, I think it's worse than the system we already have. With the old system, sending a decision to the video ref was a tacit admission by the referee that he didn't see what happened. As such, I think there was a built in deterrent (albeit a mild one) to going to the screen all the time - a referee who goes the screen for everything would basically be admitting that he doesn't know what he's doing.

The NRL system, on the other hand, gives the illusion that the referee is making a decision (let's face it, it is only an illusion - only in 'benefit of the doubt' situations does it carry any actual weight). But because the referee is seen to be making a decision then there is no 'shame' in going to the video ref (rather than it being an admission of ignorance, it's more like saying 'I did see it, and I know what I think, but I wouldn't mind a second opinion'). The result, if my experience of watching the NRL tells me anything, is that referees go to the video ref for pretty much every single try.

Re: 2015 Rule changes : Fri Dec 19, 2014 10:24 pm  

Hopefully this will do away with pathetic obstructions all the time.

Re: 2015 Rule changes : Fri Dec 19, 2014 11:24 pm  

Dux wrote:

I seem to be in a minority on this, but I can't see any point in the video ref rule at all. What does it actually achieve? If anything, I think it's worse than the system we already have. With the old system, sending a decision to the video ref was a tacit admission by the referee that he didn't see what happened. As such, I think there was a built in deterrent (albeit a mild one) to going to the screen all the time - a referee who goes the screen for everything would basically be admitting that he doesn't know what he's doing.

The NRL system, on the other hand, gives the illusion that the referee is making a decision (let's face it, it is only an illusion - only in 'benefit of the doubt' situations does it carry any actual weight). But because the referee is seen to be making a decision then there is no 'shame' in going to the video ref (rather than it being an admission of ignorance, it's more like saying 'I did see it, and I know what I think, but I wouldn't mind a second opinion'). The result, if my experience of watching the NRL tells me anything, is that referees go to the video ref for pretty much every single try.

You may be in a minority, but I'm in the same minority with you. Utterly pointless rule. If the video ref sees something which contradicts the on-field ref's indication, then it's the video ref who will have the final say. It would be bizarre to do otherwise. That is exactly the same as now. Strange and useless rule.

Re: 2015 Rule changes : Sat Dec 20, 2014 9:03 pm  

Dux wrote:

I seem to be in a minority on this, but I can't see any point in the video ref rule at all. What does it actually achieve? If anything, I think it's worse than the system we already have. With the old system, sending a decision to the video ref was a tacit admission by the referee that he didn't see what happened. As such, I think there was a built in deterrent (albeit a mild one) to going to the screen all the time - a referee who goes the screen for everything would basically be admitting that he doesn't know what he's doing.

The NRL system, on the other hand, gives the illusion that the referee is making a decision (let's face it, it is only an illusion - only in 'benefit of the doubt' situations does it carry any actual weight). But because the referee is seen to be making a decision then there is no 'shame' in going to the video ref (rather than it being an admission of ignorance, it's more like saying 'I did see it, and I know what I think, but I wouldn't mind a second opinion'). The result, if my experience of watching the NRL tells me anything, is that referees go to the video ref for pretty much every single try.

i think it replaces benefit of doubt decisions?

Re: 2015 Rule changes : Sat Dec 20, 2014 9:52 pm  

We should innovate again and make video referee decisions be decided by red button voting.

Re: 2015 Rule changes : Sat Dec 20, 2014 10:40 pm  

They all seem fairly reasonable.

Nothing too dramatic

Re: 2015 Rule changes : Sat Dec 20, 2014 10:53 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

We should innovate again and make video referee decisions be decided by red button voting.

There should be a phone number with extensions. Type the number and add 01 for try, add 02 for not try. Imagine the extra income the game could make.

Re: 2015 Rule changes : Mon Dec 22, 2014 11:18 am  

Video red rule is pointless. If anything maybe puts pressure on video red to go with the decision made by the red Instead of just calling it from the footage.
Again just following the lead of NRL.
same with shoulder charge would should never have been banned in UK.