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3 in the tackle : Sat Sep 20, 2014 9:37 am  
Watching the game last night. Cas were getting three men in the tackle at least twice in every set in the first 20 minutes. The 3rd man going in low

Saints did it much less but there were a few sets where they did it twice in a row, LMS and Roby going in low as 3rd man.

Considering recent posts about wigans use of the 3rd man in the tackle I'm surprised nothing has beenentioned by the posters on this board. Is it only bad when Wigan do it?
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Re: 3 in the tackle : Sat Sep 20, 2014 10:23 am  
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Watching the game last night. Cas were getting three men in the tackle at least twice in every set in the first 20 minutes. The 3rd man going in low

Saints did it much less but there were a few sets where they did it twice in a row, LMS and Roby going in low as 3rd man.

Considering recent posts about wigans use of the 3rd man in the tackle I'm surprised nothing has beenentioned by the posters on this board. Is it only bad when Wigan do it?


Nothing wrong if it's not dangerous. What Wigan do is different, driving at an exposed joint with the intention to cause injury.
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Re: 3 in the tackle : Sat Sep 20, 2014 10:50 am  
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Nothing wrong if it's not dangerous. What Wigan do is different, driving at an exposed joint with the intention to cause injury.



:lol: haha sure
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Re: 3 in the tackle : Sat Sep 20, 2014 11:17 am  
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Re: 3 in the tackle : Sat Sep 20, 2014 11:29 am  
Genuine question - i wanted to see why it's seen as ok for some teams to do and not others.
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Re: 3 in the tackle : Sat Sep 20, 2014 12:53 pm  
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Nothing wrong if it's not dangerous. What Wigan do is different, driving at an exposed joint with the intention to cause injury.



Well, everyone knows Wigan is the birth place of the cannon ball tackle and head hunting. The YouTube of Cassidy v Morley, still dont know how Morley avoided being decapitated.
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Re: 3 in the tackle : Sat Sep 20, 2014 1:16 pm  
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Well, everyone knows Wigan is the birth place of the cannon ball tackle and head hunting. The YouTube of Cassidy v Morley, still dont know how Morley avoided being decapitated.



I'm going to assume your's and Saddened's responses are to what you perceive as trolling. If not, you both need to go and give your head a shake.

Fair question from the original poster though. Without falling into the troll/countertroll it would be interesting to know why practically every criticism against Wigan, as posted by you on here the other day, was duplicated by a very effective Saints team last night without murmur. Not having a go at you JM. We all suffer from being a little 'one eyed' at times but your criticisms and how you felt about such tactics the other day were pretty specific.
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Re: 3 in the tackle : Sat Sep 20, 2014 1:31 pm  
I personally don't like to see it as it slows the game down and makes for a pretty boring game if everyone adopts it. It really is spoiling the game as a spectacle. However, its within the laws of the game (as long as it's not a cannon ball or high hit) so all teams can do it if they want to. To be honest, if you watch Wigan, they try to get even more in the tackle, often 4 or 5. They are able to get off and back in the line of defence as it takes so long for them all to get off.

The laws need to change to make it quicker, so if a team puts so many in a tackle, they should still have to clear the ruck in the same time as if it was 1 or 2 in the tackle. Less teams would want to risk men not getting back the 10 so would be less inclined to do it.
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Re: 3 in the tackle : Sat Sep 20, 2014 1:44 pm  
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I personally don't like to see it as it slows the game down and makes for a pretty boring game if everyone adopts it. It really is spoiling the game as a spectacle. However, its within the laws of the game (as long as it's not a cannon ball or high hit) so all teams can do it if they want to. To be honest, if you watch Wigan, they try to get even more in the tackle, often 4 or 5. They are able to get off and back in the line of defence as it takes so long for them all to get off.

The laws need to change to make it quicker, so if a team puts so many in a tackle, they should still have to clear the ruck in the same time as if it was 1 or 2 in the tackle. Less teams would want to risk men not getting back the 10 so would be less inclined to do it.


Or alternatively pass the ball closer to the defensive line, use offloads or move the ball more quickly to the fringes. There are many ways to counteract more bodies in the tackle without legislating against it. It could even create an advantage for the attacking team if done well. Evolution, rather than luddism should be the order of the day here. The challenge has been set. It's up to coaches and teams to rise to it.
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Re: 3 in the tackle : Sat Sep 20, 2014 8:51 pm  
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Watching the game last night. Cas were getting three men in the tackle at least twice in every set in the first 20 minutes. The 3rd man going in low

Saints did it much less but there were a few sets where they did it twice in a row, LMS and Roby going in low as 3rd man.

Considering recent posts about wigans use of the 3rd man in the tackle I'm surprised nothing has beenentioned by the posters on this board. Is it only bad when Wigan do it?


I watched the Wigan game and literally every tackle was a 3 man wrestle. Good for the goose , good for the gander
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