penalty try : Wed Jun 18, 2014 5:51 pm  

just finished watching a video of Wigan 22 v Saints 32 in 1987.There was a try scored by Phil Vievers he bent down to score, as he was straightning up Shelford sent him flying.The ref gave the try & the coversion was good then the ref pointed in front of the post for the penalty kick.The Wheeler try V Hudds wqs something similar when Brough pulled him back why was that not a 8 point try a conversion & a penalty.I mentioned the 1987 game my son & wife said they have never seen that done before.Has that rule been done away with.I do not bother with rules much apart from gerrom onside & forward pass:):).Perhaps someone will know the answer or was them two tries somewhat different in the scoring of.

Re: penalty try : Wed Jun 18, 2014 6:08 pm  

From your description it sounds like phil scored and then a foul was committed.

So not a penalty try. But a penalty after the try.

Wheeler was awarded a penalty try, as he did not score.

Re: penalty try : Wed Jun 18, 2014 6:13 pm  

Don't know about the specific incident (I wasn't born to be fair) but:

A penalty try is awarded if an offence is committed leading up to a try being scored, or in a situation where a score would have undoubtedly happened if the offence wasn't committed. This is a try awarded under the sticks, generally leading to 6 points.

An 8-point penalty try is awarded if an offence is committed AFTER a try has been scored. This is a 4 point try, a conversion where the ball was put down, and an additional kick under the posts (or anywhere the attacking team likes) is then awarded.

Re: penalty try : Wed Jun 18, 2014 6:44 pm  

Not born in 87

jes now i'm feeling very old

Re: penalty try : Wed Jun 18, 2014 6:54 pm  

Magic Superbeetle wrote:

Don't know about the specific incident (I wasn't born to be fair) but:

A penalty try is awarded if an offence is committed leading up to a try being scored, or in a situation where a score would have undoubtedly happened if the offence wasn't committed. This is a try awarded under the sticks, generally leading to 6 points.

An 8-point penalty try is awarded if an offence is committed AFTER a try has been scored. This is a 4 point try, a conversion where the ball was put down, and an additional kick under the posts (or anywhere the attacking team likes) is then awarded.

Almost spot on!

The 8-pointer is when a foul is committed in the act of scoring or immediately after scoring.

Re: penalty try : Wed Jun 18, 2014 6:55 pm  

BackrowSaint wrote:

Almost spot on!

The 8-pointer is when a foul is committed in the act of scoring or immediately after scoring.

I wasn't either. Old man.

Re: penalty try : Wed Jun 18, 2014 6:56 pm  

Getting close to retirement

Re: penalty try : Thu Jun 19, 2014 7:55 pm  

edon10 wrote:

just finished watching a video of Wigan 22 v Saints 32 in 1987.There was a try scored by Phil Vievers he bent down to score, as he was straightning up Shelford sent him flying.The ref gave the try & the coversion was good then the ref pointed in front of the post for the penalty kick.The Wheeler try V Hudds wqs something similar when Brough pulled him back why was that not a 8 point try a conversion & a penalty.I mentioned the 1987 game my son & wife said they have never seen that done before.Has that rule been done away with.I do not bother with rules much apart from gerrom onside & forward pass:):).Perhaps someone will know the answer or was them two tries somewhat different in the scoring of.

Was that the game that Wigan were 22 nil up at half time? If it was I went with a St Helens supporting friend, was thoroughly enjoying myself at half time and very quiet at full time.

Re: penalty try : Fri Jun 20, 2014 12:36 pm  

Eastbourne Warrior wrote:

Was that the game that Wigan were 22 nil up at half time? If it was I went with a St Helens supporting friend, was thoroughly enjoying myself at half time and very quiet at full time.

yes we went very quite at half time, but as they say its not over till the final whistle.I have put the video away now can you remember what Hanley got sent off for.Its been a week since i watched it:):).it was not long before the end IIR.

Re: penalty try : Fri Jun 20, 2014 9:17 pm  

edon10 wrote:

yes we went very quite at half time, but as they say its not over till the final whistle.I have put the video away now can you remember what Hanley got sent off for.Its been a week since i watched it:):).it was not long before the end IIR.

Not a clue, I haven't seen the game since. The scoreline just triggered a memory.