Salford stats : Sat May 31, 2014 7:06 am  

http://superleague.co.uk/report/9998 Some surprising ones there, I really question the Mose ones, looked great on the night! Sia and Robes the stars Richards and Thompson did very well LMS much improved, great effort, looked in real pain throughout too

http://superleague.co.uk/report/9998 Some surprising ones there, I really question the Mose ones, looked great on the night! Sia and Robes the stars Richards and Thompson did very well LMS much improved, great effort, looked in real pain throughout too

Re: Salford stats : Sat May 31, 2014 7:12 am  

Another questionable stat (with Mose's) are Wello's, great mtrs and carries but only 3 tackles and 2 missed? doesnt sound at all like Wello!

Re: Salford stats : Sat May 31, 2014 7:15 am  

Luke Walsh six missed tackles! Is that a record for one player?! Good job that some of the 13 he made were absolutely vital. Spares his blushes a bit!

Stats are interesting but they don't tell the full story of the game. Wello was nothing special defensively but his presence was crucial IMO. Likewise with Walsh and his organising. We would have fallen apart without those two and Robes once the injuries started to bite.

Re: Salford stats : Sat May 31, 2014 7:20 am  

Saint Simon wrote:

Another questionable stat (with Mose's) are Wello's, great mtrs and carries but only 3 tackles and 2 missed? doesnt sound at all like Wello!

Wello's missed tackles are correct!

Re: Salford stats : Sat May 31, 2014 8:41 am  

mose didn't take the ball up much, and his tackles were generally third man in flops.

His performance was not satisfactory IMO.

Last week he put the effort in. This week he was in dos mode.

His pre season injury cannot be used as an excuse anymore. Last week showed he was now upto hitting a higher level. The fact he hasn't done so, shows a lack of application.

I think Saints are in a bit of a bind re Mose, in that when we have a fit pack he should not be in the side due to lack of application. However there is no A team for him to serve his penance. So by not playing him, he would just pile weight on and lose fitness due to lack of any match action.

Re: Salford stats : Sat May 31, 2014 8:43 am  

The Chair Maker wrote:

mose didn't take the ball up much, and his tackles were generally third man in flops.

His performance was not satisfactory IMO.

Last week he put the effort in. This week he was in dos mode.

His pre season injury cannot be used as an excuse anymore. Last week showed he was now upto hitting a higher level. The fact he hasn't done show, shows a lack of application.

I think Saints are in a bit of a bind re Mose, in that when we have a fit pack he should not be in the side due to lack of application. However there is no A team for him to serve his penance. So by not playing him, he would just pile weight on and lose fitness due to lack of any match action.

At last someone has noticed what I've been saying all season

Re: Salford stats : Sat May 31, 2014 8:44 am  

St pete wrote:

At last someone has noticed what I've been saying all season

You weren't at the match last night and you weren't at the match last week, and you haven't seen either match on TV either, so you are making a fool of yourself.

Re: Salford stats : Sat May 31, 2014 8:52 am  

SaintsFan wrote:

You weren't at the match last night and you weren't at the match last week, and you haven't seen either match on TV either, so you are making a fool of yourself.

Exactly and that's why I've quoted in my posts that I'll see it when I beeline it as I haven't seen the games

I also read how the man himself admitted he's been taken super league lightly so obviously he thinks his form isn't up to what it should be.

I've yet to see him play well once for saints, it seems I've missed his one game he played well. In fact, I don't think I've seen him make a one on one tackle this year, he continually comes in 3rd man.

I hated seeing Amor and walmsley doing the tough stuff, getting smashed while trying to get out our 20m zone while Mose walks back letting the play come to him.

Re: Salford stats : Sat May 31, 2014 8:53 am  

St pete wrote:

At last someone has noticed what I've been saying all season

To be fair Pete, ive long noticed him being third man in.
I suspect that's a deliberate Saints tactic, as his size pretty much stops the opposition attacker from getting a quick play the ball. However for me such tackles should only class as one third of a tackle.
There may also be the psychological effect of opposition forwards not wanting to run at Masoe. I remember that used to happen re Vila Matautia. Could be quite funny seeing a forward run sideways to avoid getting smashed by Vila.

Its his offensive stats that were particularly poor. The kids all outshone him. A senior player should have personal pride in not wanting kids just out of their nappies like Richards and Thompson, make him look like a lard booty.

Re: Salford stats : Sat May 31, 2014 8:57 am  

St pete wrote:

Exactly and that's why I've quoted in my posts that I'll see it when I beeline it as I haven't seen the games

Yeah, so don't talk so daft without first seeing things for yourself.

He did a great scoot from dummy half for instance (which was hilarious but also very effective) and played his full part in the try of the night. The team was madness in the second half, with Walsh orchestrating things the whole time, keeping us in some kind of order. Again, this is something you wouldn't know because you weren't there and you haven't seen the game. So you're better keeping your thoughts to yourself until you see the game otherwise you make yourself look a bit of a pratt.