The best 17 : Sat Apr 12, 2014 1:26 pm  

Well I normally reserve judgement on this for game 10. I think 10 games in is where you can say you have seen the best and worst of the team.

But with game 10 being after Easter I think there will be lots of other things to talk about such as Wigan and Leeds.

At the start of the year people where saying their starting 17 I wonder if that has changed for anyone.

It certainly has for me.


FB: Lomax
Wings: Makinson Swift
(these two have really come on this year)
Centre: Turner Jones
(I was going for Percival before a ball was kicked but I think Jones has earned the shirt and should not be dropped)
Halfs: Wheeler and Walsh
( to me these two have combined the best, but no one has really nailed down the 6 shirt)
Prop: Amor & Masoe
( been impressed with Masoe not just a bulky runner)
Hooker: Roby
(but I do think he needs an interchange)
2nd Row: Sia Manu
( although I think Manu has not been as top as he has been)
LF: Wellens
( I think he has earned a shirt not of the past, but off the present, I would start him as we need to start in the right fashion and not bring him on to stabilize)

Subs:
Walmsley
Laffranchi
Flanaghan
Lance ( I would bring as an interchange hooker and cover for backs in an important game)

Re: The best 17 : Sat Apr 12, 2014 1:39 pm  

bewareshadows wrote:

Well I normally reserve judgement on this for game 10. I think 10 games in is where you can say you have seen the best and worst of the team.

But with game 10 being after Easter I think there will be lots of other things to talk about such as Wigan and Leeds.

At the start of the year people where saying their starting 17 I wonder if that has changed for anyone.

It certainly has for me.


FB: Lomax
Wings: Makinson Swift
(these two have really come on this year)
Centre: Turner Jones
(I was going for Percival before a ball was kicked but I think Jones has earned the shirt and should not be dropped)
Halfs: Wheeler and Walsh
( to me these two have combined the best, but no one has really nailed down the 6 shirt)
Prop: Amor & Masoe
( been impressed with Masoe not just a bulky runner)
Hooker: Roby
(but I do think he needs an interchange)
2nd Row: Sia Manu
( although I think Manu has not been as top as he has been)
LF: Wellens
( I think he has earned a shirt not of the past, but off the present, I would start him as we need to start in the right fashion and not bring him on to stabilize)

Subs:
Walmsley
Laffranchi
Flanaghan
Lance ( I would bring as an interchange hooker and cover for backs in an important game)

We missed Lance last night.

Re: The best 17 : Sat Apr 12, 2014 2:19 pm  

I'll agree. I think Lance and Wheeler are 50/50 at the moment. Once one starts producing consistently good performances they will nail down the spot for the rest of the year. Unfortunately for Lance injury got in the way.

I still don't get why we went with Wilkin at 6, when Wheeler is fit. He could have drafted into the 19 surely for an injured player

Re: The best 17 : Sat Apr 12, 2014 3:44 pm  

bewareshadows wrote:

I'll agree. I think Lance and Wheeler are 50/50 at the moment. Once one starts producing consistently good performances they will nail down the spot for the rest of the year. Unfortunately for Lance injury got in the way.

I still don't get why we went with Wilkin at 6, when Wheeler is fit. He could have drafted into the 19 surely for an injured player

We actually Finnished up with Wellens at six who produced a sterling performance for us.

Re: The best 17 : Sat Apr 12, 2014 4:17 pm  

Lance should be 6, Wheeler has again offered nothing and should be released.

LMS should be 13. Wello has done okay, but misses too many tackles as he isn't a forward. Should not be playing week in week out.

Re: The best 17 : Sat Apr 12, 2014 4:30 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

Lance should be 6, Wheeler has again offered nothing and should be released.

LMS should be 13. Wello has done okay, but misses too many tackles as he isn't a forward. Should not be playing week in week out.

Lms was awful last night until the last ten mins.

Re: The best 17 : Sat Apr 12, 2014 4:49 pm  

St pete wrote:

Lms was awful last night until the last ten mins.

I'll put that down to him playing prop in Kyle's absence.

Re: The best 17 : Sat Apr 12, 2014 5:10 pm  

bewareshadows wrote:

Well I normally reserve judgement on this for game 10. I think 10 games in is where you can say you have seen the best and worst of the team.

But with game 10 being after Easter I think there will be lots of other things to talk about such as Wigan and Leeds.

At the start of the year people where saying their starting 17 I wonder if that has changed for anyone.

It certainly has for me.


FB: Lomax
Wings: Makinson Swift
(these two have really come on this year)
Centre: Turner Jones
(I was going for Percival before a ball was kicked but I think Jones has earned the shirt and should not be dropped)
Halfs: Wheeler and Walsh
( to me these two have combined the best, but no one has really nailed down the 6 shirt)
Prop: Amor & Masoe
( been impressed with Masoe not just a bulky runner)
Hooker: Roby
(but I do think he needs an interchange)
2nd Row: Sia Manu
( although I think Manu has not been as top as he has been)
LF: Wellens
( I think he has earned a shirt not of the past, but off the present, I would start him as we need to start in the right fashion and not bring him on to stabilize)

Subs:
Walmsley
Laffranchi
Flanaghan
Lance ( I would bring as an interchange hooker and cover for backs in an important game)

Apart from last night I'd have Wilkin in front of Manu based on form. Manu just hasnt impressed me yet this season

Re: The best 17 : Sat Apr 12, 2014 5:20 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

I'll put that down to him playing prop in Kyle's absence.

He's played prop did years. If he can't play prop then Richards or walker should have come in.

Re: The best 17 : Sat Apr 12, 2014 7:20 pm  

For me:

Lomax
Makinson Turner Jones Swift
Hohaia Walsh
Amor Roby Masoe
Wilkin Soliola
LMS

Walmsley Laffranchi Manu* Wellens

*if were going with form alone Manu would be out for Flanaghan

Makinson, after a few years of struggling has finally gotten over second year syndrome, and is rapidly becoming one of the top finishers in the game. He's currently scoring tries that no one else in this country could score.

Jones is a centre. I said it in the off season, and he proved it Friday night. The trick Nathan Brown has is fitting 3 very good centres into 2 positions when Percival returns - but people have been calling for a centre like willie talau for years - josh jones can be that man.

Hohaia has finally shown some of what he's capable of, given the freedom Walsh grants him. I've gone from not caring if he returns to the NRL next year, to hoping we at least have a replacement lined up (he's not in the soliola - tears rolling down my cheek stage, but hey there's a long way to go yet )

Walsh and Amor are everything I could dream them to be. Friday night also showed we should do everything in our power to replace laffranchi with huby (assuming laffranchi is retiring)

Walmsley and masoe both have their stupid moments, but the game where both of them iron it out, were gonna steam roller.

Masoe has proven he's no Feka. And he's getting better and better week on week. The slip ball on Friday wih 3 hanging onto him was great ... Just a shame it was slippers Wilkin as opposed lomax!

Lms is not a prop. We get dominated whenever he starts there. It's not too bad when we pull a TP style of starting him at lock and moving him forward, but he should be left at 13 (where I think he's very good)

Soliola is perhaps the best back rower in the league. He's certainly the form back rower in super league. At the start of the season I would of had him on the bench for impact, but his performances demand long minutes and he can do them.

Manu has been the let down of the year so far. But people suggest he's a slow starter, so I'm willing to give him some more time to pick up his game. He was ambling at times on Friday. In form alone Flanaghan would be ahead of him, and even greenwood.

Greenwood deserves a special mention. Despite not making my cut, he's still much improved on last year, and looks like he could go far.

We need someone to rotate with Roby.

Wellens is currently making the cut by his own right.