Discipline 2014 : Fri Jan 17, 2014 12:36 pm  

Hope Nathan has sorted/discussed our discipline out for the forthcoming season

I don't know the stats for last year but we gave a lot of penalty's away, I can see Mose being penilised alot this season year with his style of play what do you think?

With our club captain not garanteed a place this year will this be an issue?

Re: Discipline 2014 : Fri Jan 17, 2014 2:01 pm  

If the big man is another Vila i can live with it, he will give penalties away, but will also change games by breaking players.

General discipline wasn't too bad, but always something that needs to be kept in check. Wello not being on the pitch wont effect it, all he does is wave his arms about and scream at the refs anyway

Re: Discipline 2014 : Fri Jan 17, 2014 2:47 pm  

LMS needs the button it

Re: Discipline 2014 : Fri Jan 17, 2014 3:41 pm  

We had very little go forward and was on the back foot a large part of the season last year which seemed to breed the ill discipline.
I reckon we will have a lot more momentum this season with no need for negative tactics......less penalties against us this coming season

Re: Discipline 2014 : Fri Jan 17, 2014 4:07 pm  

Saints gave away less penalties than any other top 8 team barring Hull last season. http://www.superleague.co.uk/stats/club_stats

Saints gave away less penalties than any other top 8 team barring Hull last season. http://www.superleague.co.uk/stats/club_stats

Re: Discipline 2014 : Fri Jan 17, 2014 11:14 pm  

So that is that then we were actually very disciplined!

Re: Discipline 2014 : Fri Jan 17, 2014 11:48 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote: Saints gave away less penalties than any other top 8 team barring Hull last season. http://www.superleague.co.uk/stats/club_stats There is an argument that Saints were actually too disciplined last year for our own good. I suspect that will change this year as we have signed Amor and Masoe who are both not afraid to mix it up. With regard to Wigan, I noticed since McGuire arrived that they appeared to take the tactical view that it was better to give a penalty away following a break, either by holding the player down to prevent the quick play the ball, or deliberate obstruction of support players. I reasoned that this was because Wigan had high confidence in their defensive structures ability to withstand 6 tackles when the defence was set. Teams like Saints I don't think had the confidence in their defence, nor did they possess aggressive intimidatory players.

Rogues Gallery wrote: Saints gave away less penalties than any other top 8 team barring Hull last season. http://www.superleague.co.uk/stats/club_stats There is an argument that Saints were actually too disciplined last year for our own good. I suspect that will change this year as we have signed Amor and Masoe who are both not afraid to mix it up. With regard to Wigan, I noticed since McGuire arrived that they appeared to take the tactical view that it was better to give a penalty away following a break, either by holding the player down to prevent the quick play the ball, or deliberate obstruction of support players. I reasoned that this was because Wigan had high confidence in their defensive structures ability to withstand 6 tackles when the defence was set. Teams like Saints I don't think had the confidence in their defence, nor did they possess aggressive intimidatory players.

Re: Discipline 2014 : Sat Jan 18, 2014 9:25 am  

The Chair Maker wrote:

There is an argument that Saints were actually too disciplined last year for our own good.

I suspect that will change this year as we have signed Amor and Masoe who are both not afraid to mix it up.

With regard to Wigan, I noticed since McGuire arrived that they appeared to take the tactical view that it was better to give a penalty away following a break, either by holding the player down to prevent the quick play the ball, or deliberate obstruction of support players. I reasoned that this was because Wigan had high confidence in their defensive structures ability to withstand 6 tackles when the defence was set.

Teams like Saints I don't think had the confidence in their defence, nor did they possess aggressive intimidatory players.

Brown also used those type of spoiling tactics at hudds. I was surprised we didn't bring any of those holding down type tactics as it was effective for brown with hudds and maguire at wigan.

Mose will give pens away, that's a cert with him. Not only for his miss timed big hits but he will be caught off side as he struggles to get back into the line and I also think he will give a few holding down pens as he rests in the tackle.