Adam Swift killing it at Whitehaven : Mon Jul 15, 2013 9:50 am  

reading league express and he was names MOM again by them.

I think its three games on the trot he has been the nominated MOM by Whitehaven.

He is winning these awards from fullback.

Think it might therefore be an option for us, especially next year for us to move Lomax into the halves alongside Walsh and play Swift at fullback.

Would even like to think we would consider it against Wigan.

Re: Adam Swift killing it at Whitehaven : Mon Jul 15, 2013 9:56 am  

I think we want to keep Lomax at #1 as he's been exceptional in this role against top opposition, but I can't understand why they can't give swift a run at #6, given the people we have played there so far.

Re: Adam Swift killing it at Whitehaven : Mon Jul 15, 2013 10:04 am  

Tough one. Swift is one of those players who is probably going to be released soon as he'll never tie down a position. He's been played on the wing but never looked comfortable there. If he was any good in the halves, you have to guess he might have been tried there already, given the utter rubbish we've had there (Wellens, Turner etc).

Swift to fullback and Lomax in the halves with Luke Walsh is indeed an option, but a risky one. Could easily come crashing down on us if Lomax suffered another confidence evaporation like he did the last time he had responsibilty in the halves.

Re: Adam Swift killing it at Whitehaven : Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:38 am  

If we let Adam Swift go he would be snapped up by another SL team. He is showing in the lower leagues he is a standout player and deserves a shot at SL. I'm just not sure why he hasnt been given more of a chance... maybe it's because Brown can't get him to play second row???

Re: Adam Swift killing it at Whitehaven : Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:39 am  

Saddened! wrote:

Tough one. Swift is one of those players who is probably going to be released soon as he'll never tie down a position. He's been played on the wing but never looked comfortable there. If he was any good in the halves, you have to guess he might have been tried there already, given the utter rubbish we've had there (Wellens, Turner etc).

Swift to fullback and Lomax in the halves with Luke Walsh is indeed an option, but a risky one. Could easily come crashing down on us if Lomax suffered another confidence evaporation like he did the last time he had responsibilty in the halves.

Its an odd one. You say he's never looked comfortable on the wing, but his try ratio is fine. He looks ok taking kicks and shows good ability going forward. He's impressed a lot of people in very limited appearences, but yet seems to have been used expremely sparingly - I can only assume the fact he's stayed part time has influenced this.

Re: Adam Swift killing it at Whitehaven : Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:43 am  

He's been outstanding and is getting better every week. He made a break returning a kick yesterday that turned the game back in our favour when we looked well beaten with 10 minutes to go. I can only see him as a full back in the future as his main strength is coming into the line and he's good at using his speed and step to get on the outside to create overlaps.

All the Saints lads we've had have been really good and the partnership has worked out better than I certainly expected having really not liked the thought of it at first. At least the players we are having are coming in and staying for a run of games and they look like they really want to play for Whitehaven. Swift and Hand have been particularly impressive and Anthony Walker played well yesterday.

Re: Adam Swift killing it at Whitehaven : Mon Jul 15, 2013 4:39 pm  

I think it all hinges on if Adam goes full time. At present he is at his level with other part time players. However the fact he is showing up so well must give him the confidence to give it a go. Meli is leaving so it leaves Ade Tommy and any competition if I was the lad I would be the competition.

Re: Adam Swift killing it at Whitehaven : Mon Jul 15, 2013 4:46 pm  

He's currently goign for a qualification, isnt he?
I would have thought he'll get that as security, then give full time rugby a punt. Then, if it doesn't work out, he can go and get a job in aeronautics.

I think there's more than a dash of star quality about him.

Re: Adam Swift killing it at Whitehaven : Mon Jul 15, 2013 5:42 pm  

Loz wrote:

I think it all hinges on if Adam goes full time. At present he is at his level with other part time players. However the fact he is showing up so well must give him the confidence to give it a go. Meli is leaving so it leaves Ade Tommy and any competition if I was the lad I would be the competition.

I think his part time status due to completing his aerospace engineering apprenticeship is the main reason he hasn't had more game time at Saints.

Its certainly a big career choice as a fully qualified aerospace engineer with experience can earn £50-60k a year.
Adam would not be earning that to start with, probably something like £20-30k. However that's still good money and probably more than he would hope to earn as a young SL player breaking into the first team.

Its a case of do you back yourself as someone who can make it big in RL and therefore potentially get a £300k a year NRL deal in a few years time, or do you think your just a solid first team SL player who would earn £30-40k.

IF its the latter then the better career option is to stay in Aerospace engineering and ply your RL trade in the lower leagues as a part time championship player earning probably £10k - £20k to supplement the day job.

Personally think Swift has what it takes to be a top line SL player.
On his limited first team showings he has always looked more dynamic than Makinson which is born out by his strike rate.

Re: Adam Swift killing it at Whitehaven : Mon Jul 15, 2013 6:15 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

Tough one. Swift is one of those players who is probably going to be released soon as he'll never tie down a position. He's been played on the wing but never looked comfortable there. If he was any good in the halves, you have to guess he might have been tried there already, given the utter rubbish we've had there (Wellens, Turner etc).

Swift to fullback and Lomax in the halves with Luke Walsh is indeed an option, but a risky one. Could easily come crashing down on us if Lomax suffered another confidence evaporation like he did the last time he had responsibilty in the halves.

I don't know enough about swifty at super league level as he's only played few games but he does look a good prospect.

I like lomax at fullback but I also think he'd make a very good running stand off If he played with a good experienced organising scrum half which Walsh very much is!

If we are going to go down that route, I think we'd have been trying swifty now but we ain't. That suggests to me that swift will either be wing or move on to another club.

I must admit, the thought of swifty, lomax, Walsh, roby and Wilkin could be exciting if all play to potential.