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Tony Clubb : Fri Jun 07, 2013 8:13 am  
I've now heard and read a number of sources suggesting talks are under way with the London-born centre/second-row.

Interesting signing. He's a big man, who could play prop as easily as he plays centre. He's also got some natural talent, and deserved his England cal-up when he got it. However, he's also got a reputation for being a bit lazy, and has stagnated and gone backwards in a terrible London team over the last three seasons.

Would Saints help him fulfil his potential for the benefit of both player and club, or is this just another inexplicable signing by a headless coach and board ?
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Re: Tony Clubb : Fri Jun 07, 2013 8:22 am  
It's an interesting one. He is a big lad and takes the ball in hard and direct. He looks to me to be destined to do a Ruben Wiki and go from centre to prop.

He has issues defensively, but I think they are more to do with positioning on the fringes than with his tackling, and as such wouldn't be so much of an issue if he were playing in the front row.

It's a signing I'd be willing to go along with, as long as there was an established quality front rower coming in as well - if Clubb was the only answer to our forward problems I'd be decidedly vexed.
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Re: Tony Clubb : Fri Jun 07, 2013 8:52 am  
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It's an interesting one. He is a big lad and takes the ball in hard and direct. He looks to me to be destined to do a Ruben Wiki and go from centre to prop.

He has issues defensively, but I think they are more to do with positioning on the fringes than with his tackling, and as such wouldn't be so much of an issue if he were playing in the front row.

It's a signing I'd be willing to go along with, as long as there was an established quality front rower coming in as well - if Clubb was the only answer to our forward problems I'd be decidedly vexed.

He's big, scary and agreesive. If, indeed he has been playing front row with some effect, then OK. He's young for a forward, british and being around his old team mate LMS may be good for both of them.
However, we are desparately in need of no frills starting props. We've decided that LMS is better off the bench, i think. I also think Walsmley will be the same for a year or so yet. This will essentially leave us with Clubb and Paul Clough as starting props, which i do not think is heavy enough. Jordan Hand may come into the reckoning if his form at Whitehaven continues, but I don't want to rely on that.
So, if we sign Clubb, we still need an Experienced starting prop - if not two. That would leave us with 2 new players plus Walmsley, Clubb, LMS and Clough, meaning even if we play with a 3 prop system (which goes against the current 3 pivot system), we've got 1 of the guys above excluded from the 17. Marry that with youngsters like Walker and Thompson who are filling the "heavy 13 role" reletively cheaply, then the numbers don't add up to me.

So, in conclusion, if Clubb can realistically play as a starting prop, OK. If not, its a poor signing.
Given the last time I remember seeing Tony clubb on the pitch is when he scored 4 tries playing centre for England, I don't think I can comment on whether he can manage that. London are rarely on telly and our hmoe games that I have seen don't seem to stick in my mind (except for losing to them at the Stobart, as that was one of my worst experiences supporting Saints).
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Re: Tony Clubb : Fri Jun 07, 2013 8:52 am  
No, No, No, No, No.
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Re: Tony Clubb : Fri Jun 07, 2013 9:06 am  
I was thinking we're a bit light in the 2nd row.
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Re: Tony Clubb : Fri Jun 07, 2013 9:07 am  
Unless he's suddenly turned into a really really good prop it would be a disaster of a signing
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Re: Tony Clubb : Fri Jun 07, 2013 9:17 am  
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Unless he's suddenly turned into a really really good prop it would be a disaster of a signing


Of course, he could have been signed as a centre.

We have Turner and Percival as centres. Brown clearly thinks Turner can be cover for Biscuitbones at stand-off. So that leaves us light at centres. In addition, Percival, while entertainingly nippy with ball in hand, has a real problem defensively at centre because he weighs 7-stone in his socks, and is occasionally knocked over by the strong gusts of wind which blow around the stadium.

So Clubb is the perfect sub : he can come on as a packman if that is required, or as a centre if it gets a bit breezy on Percival's wing, or if Turner has to move to stand-off because Wheeler accidentally breaks his foot and hands while tying his shoe-laces.
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Re: Tony Clubb : Fri Jun 07, 2013 9:44 am  
Aren't you forgetting Josh Jones - equally at home at centre or 2nd row.

I don't think he's at all what is needed at Saints. Flog me within an inch of my life for saying this by all means, but I'm starting to believe Saddened's jibberings about the club completely lacking ambition beyond being mid-table.
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Re: Tony Clubb : Fri Jun 07, 2013 9:47 am  
Can see the headlines now....Saints sign a back and turn him into a prop shocker!
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Re: Tony Clubb : Fri Jun 07, 2013 9:55 am  
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