Let's see just how vital first choice half-backs are... : Tue May 14, 2013 4:02 pm  

Whilst it's obvious we need at least one quality halfback, I'm not convinced ALL our problems derive from the lack of quality halves at the club.

What will be interesting is seeing how wi*an cope without their two first choice halves. Where we've played a second rower and fullback there in recent weeks, wi*an are reported to be playing reserve halfbacks Sam Powell (20) & George Williams (18).

My guess is that wi*an will suffer far, far less than we've done.

OK, so we've not had our reserve scrum half available through injury - but I don't think the wholesale messing about with the team, and squashing players into unfamiliar positions just to accomodate them, that we've seen is anywhere near the best option. In fact, it's created an unbalanced side which is easy to defend against.

wi*an are playing London, who recently beat us, of course. My money says wi*an will stroll to victory

Re: Let's see just how vital first choice half-backs are... : Tue May 14, 2013 4:23 pm  

Not a fair comparison - we've been without our first choice everything of late, not just halves... Let's see how the pies would do without both halves, Tomkins, half their 3/4s and most of their pack and then we could compare notes.

Re: Let's see just how vital first choice half-backs are... : Tue May 14, 2013 4:28 pm  

Northampton_Saint wrote:

Not a fair comparison - we've been without our first choice everything of late, not just halves... Let's see how the pies would do without both halves, Tomkins, half their 3/4s and most of their pack and then we could compare notes.

Sunday v HKR (you remember them)
No Smith.
No Green after nine minutes,

No Mossop, Prescott, Dudson, Gelling or Tuson.

We managed o.k.

Re: Let's see just how vital first choice half-backs are... : Tue May 14, 2013 4:49 pm  

To be honest I am not interested in other clubs I think what has surprised me the most is how poor the club is for half backs in general. We used to have players who where good Saints reserve standard such as Matty Smith and Johnny Smith. How has it come to the stage when we don't seem to have any reserve half backs on the books. I confess I am shocked at Nathan Ashe I thought he was supposed to be ready for the first team yet at 21 and just is not at the races.

Re: Let's see just how vital first choice half-backs are... : Tue May 14, 2013 4:56 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

Sunday v HKR (you remember them)
No Smith.
No Green after nine minutes,

No Mossop, Prescott, Dudson, Gelling or Tuson.

We managed o.k.

Your Wigan and win when you want tho. Your doing things the Wigan way. You've got pride in the cherry & white

So what if you did ok, nobody cares on here.

F*cking idiots!

Re: Let's see just how vital first choice half-backs are... : Tue May 14, 2013 5:00 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

Sunday v HKR (you remember them)
No Smith.
No Green after nine minutes,

No Mossop, Prescott, Dudson, Gelling or Tuson.

We managed o.k.

Slipping Gelling in that list????? shame on you he's someone the other team would miss.

Btw Is that Ryan Hampshire not a Halfback?? seems to be doing ok in the kids teams

Re: Let's see just how vital first choice half-backs are... : Tue May 14, 2013 5:15 pm  

Supersaint wrote:

Slipping Gelling in that list????? shame on you he's someone the other team would miss.

Btw Is that Ryan Hampshire not a Halfback?? seems to be doing ok in the kids teams

I think Hampshire or Williams will get a run out alongside Powell.
or we can move Sam to 6 Richards to fullback with Hughes and Powell on as one wing pairing.

Re: Let's see just how vital first choice half-backs are... : Tue May 14, 2013 6:25 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

Sunday v HKR (you remember them)
No Smith.
No Green after nine minutes,

No Mossop, Prescott, Dudson, Gelling or Tuson.

We managed o.k.

So you had your first choice 1, 9 and 13 then? Thanks for confirming there is no comparison.

Re: Let's see just how vital first choice half-backs are... : Tue May 14, 2013 6:31 pm  

A few on the Wigan board were of the opinion Tomkins was the difference. So without any halves a glut of others including our main threat Lomax there is no comparison. Take Tomkins out as well as per our last 3 months & there may well be a different scoreline. Results without Tomkins suggest this as well.

Re: Let's see just how vital first choice half-backs are... : Tue May 14, 2013 7:02 pm  

I don,t think it will have as much effect as it does us, Wigoons have a reasonable structure and pattern in place, the winning margin might be less.
We don,t have any structure or game plan at all, its one rugby for us with Sia causing problems now and again.