SUPER LEAGUE WINNERS: 1996, 1999, 2000, 2002, 2006 WORLD CLUB CHALLENGE HONOURS: 2001, 2007 CHALLENGE CUP HONOURS: 1996, 1997, 2001, 2004, 2006, 2007, 2008 BBC SPORTS TEAM OF THE YEAR: 2006 LEAGUE LEADERS' SHIELD: 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008
"Unless you're willing to have a go, fail miserably, and have another go, success won't happen."
"In order to succeed, you must first be willing to fail."
"Dreams are extremely important. You can't do it unless you imagine it."
This record is for all official matches including league, championship, play-offs,premierships,challenge cup,regal/jps trophy, lancs trophy, floodlit trophy, WCC, western division, yorkshire cup and the war emergency league.
Does anyone think our LP record will be as good/better? (Granted no one will be alive and possible wont last as long as KR did)
The data was taken from the St Helens miscellany which in fact is a very worthwhile read.
Dave Whelan the saviour of the Pies Fully marked up rentbook on display Who do you think you are candidates Saints have never won the 2nd division Title, so there!!
This record is for all official matches including league, championship, play-offs,premierships,challenge cup,regal/jps trophy, lancs trophy, floodlit trophy, WCC, western division, yorkshire cup and the war emergency league.
Does anyone think our LP record will be as good/better? (Granted no one will be alive and possible wont last as long as KR did)
The data was taken from the St Helens miscellany which in fact is a very worthwhile read.
SUPER LEAGUE WINNERS: 1996, 1999, 2000, 2002, 2006 WORLD CLUB CHALLENGE HONOURS: 2001, 2007 CHALLENGE CUP HONOURS: 1996, 1997, 2001, 2004, 2006, 2007, 2008 BBC SPORTS TEAM OF THE YEAR: 2006 LEAGUE LEADERS' SHIELD: 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008
"Unless you're willing to have a go, fail miserably, and have another go, success won't happen."
"In order to succeed, you must first be willing to fail."
"Dreams are extremely important. You can't do it unless you imagine it."
Dave Whelan the saviour of the Pies Fully marked up rentbook on display Who do you think you are candidates Saints have never won the 2nd division Title, so there!!
The first Wigan v Saints derby was at Knowsley Road on November 16th 1895, the final score was 0-0 in front of 3000 species, not sure of the half-time score but I'll check with Bilko, it was the 12th game of the season for both teams, Saints had drawn 4 and Wigan had drawn 6, (five of which were scoreless). If I can find it I will sent Royce a video of the game, .
On March 26th 1896, at Frog Lane, 4000 saw Wigan beat Saints 10-0, right winger Flowers dropping a goal (worth 4 points then), Webster scored a try (3 points) and kicked a penalty (3 points)
At that time they still played with 15 a-side.
Oh, nearly forgot Rogues was there in his Knickerbockers
The first Wigan v Saints derby was at Knowsley Road on November 16th 1895, the final score was 0-0 in front of 3000 species, not sure of the half-time score but I'll check with Bilko, it was the 12th game of the season for both teams, Saints had drawn 4 and Wigan had drawn 6, (five of which were scoreless). If I can find it I will sent Royce a video of the game, .
On March 26th 1896, at Frog Lane, 4000 saw Wigan beat Saints 10-0, right winger Flowers dropping a goal (worth 4 points then), Webster scored a try (3 points) and kicked a penalty (3 points)
At that time they still played with 15 a-side.
Oh, nearly forgot Rogues was there in his Knickerbockers
My Grandfather played in that game, W Caveney.
We could have done with a forward like him last Friday, he'd have sorted them Froggies out
Unfortunately I never knew him, but when I was a kid my uncle used to tell me tales about him, apparantly he used to do a bit of bare knuckle fighting as well
Dave Whelan the saviour of the Pies Fully marked up rentbook on display Who do you think you are candidates Saints have never won the 2nd division Title, so there!!
We could have done with a forward like him last Friday, he'd have sorted them Froggies out
Unfortunately I never knew him, but when I was a kid my uncle used to tell me tales about him, apparantly he used to do a bit of bare knuckle fighting as well
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Your grandfather played in both those games above, He also played in the 2 derby league games in1896-7 season, Feb 6th Wigan 4 Saints 0, (J Walkden Drop goal). March 11th Saints 3 Wigan 0, (D Traynor try)
But he was not in the team that beat Wigan on April 3rd in the 3rd round of the first ever Challenge Cup year, the match was played at KR with 5000 attending, the final score was 11-0. Rogues did not attend as he was suffering from Pieonhisplateitis. Saints went on to get beat by Batley in the Final at Headingley. Did your Grandfather play in the final??
His last recorded Derby match against the Pies was on Oct 14th 1899 at KR when Saints won 5-0. You should be really proud being related to someone who pioneered the great game that it is.
Your grandfather played in both those games above, He also played in the 2 derby league games in1896-7 season, Feb 6th Wigan 4 Saints 0, (J Walkden Drop goal). March 11th Saints 3 Wigan 0, (D Traynor try)
But he was not in the team that beat Wigan on April 3rd in the 3rd round of the first ever Challenge Cup year, the match was played at KR with 5000 attending, the final score was 11-0. Rogues did not attend as he was suffering from Pieonhisplateitis. Saints went on to get beat by Batley in the Final at Headingley. Did your Grandfather play in the final??
His last recorded Derby match against the Pies was on Oct 14th 1899 at KR when Saints won 5-0. You should be really proud being related to someone who pioneered the great game that it is.
He was reserve for the final, he only had a short career with Saints, I looked it up on the heritage site, but I don't think the picture they use on there is correct, he was only mid 20's when he played and the picture seems to be of an older player.
Obviously I'm proud of the connection but, if you go back to the era when the team was mainly drawn from local lads, then I would guess a lot of families in the town would have had a relative who has played at one time or another.
Dave Whelan the saviour of the Pies Fully marked up rentbook on display Who do you think you are candidates Saints have never won the 2nd division Title, so there!!
He was reserve for the final, he only had a short career with Saints, I looked it up on the heritage site, but I don't think the picture they use on there is correct, he was only mid 20's when he played and the picture seems to be of an older player.
Obviously I'm proud of the connection but, if you go back to the era when the team was mainly drawn from local lads, then I would guess a lot of families in the town would have had a relative who has played at one time or another.
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There are not many who played in the first 2 Derby's