Matty Ashurst : Tue Mar 22, 2011 3:51 pm  

Never liked this lad and think it was a big mistake keeping him and letting Paul Johnson go to Wakey?

Yes every side need squad members but Matty offers zero chance of breaking a tackle or getting us going forward?

Discuss

Re: Matty Ashurst : Tue Mar 22, 2011 3:54 pm  

Rommel wrote:

Never liked this lad and think it was a big mistake keeping him and letting Paul Johnson go to Wakey?

Yes every side need squad members but Matty offers zero chance of breaking a tackle or getting us going forward?

Discuss

Paul Johnson is 23, Matty is 21.

Aside from that, I agree to an extent. Although Matty was clearly rated more highly than PJ in his time at Saints, Andy Dixon is a better player IMO and I would also rather see Magennis play than Ashurst.

Re: Matty Ashurst : Tue Mar 22, 2011 3:57 pm  

He runs good lines and has decent hands, I don't think he's ever let anyone down when he's played. Perfectly fine as a squad man so far.

I don't think we'll get bitten on the booty in letting Johnson go.

Re: Matty Ashurst : Tue Mar 22, 2011 4:06 pm  

I think Ashurst will turn out to be better than Dixon. Dixon is a tackling machine and nothing else, were as i thought last season Ashurst was starting to show some good stuff with his hands, as well as being a tackling machine. Ashurst also played games at stand off for the reserve so he must have decent hands. I'd rather have him in the side than Dixon if i'm honest.

Re: Matty Ashurst : Tue Mar 22, 2011 4:51 pm  

Thought Ashurst looked a bit light when he first came through. However, he seemed to beef up quite a bit at the end of last year and was showing some excellent form up until an injury finished his season. He seemed a little anonymous on Sat, but that was his first appearence for the 1sts since said injury. I think he'll add some extra penatration slightly wide of the ruck, or possibly make a good, no nonsense centre (he often filled in there last year mid match).

Definately a better keeper than Johnson on first team showings.

Re: Matty Ashurst : Tue Mar 22, 2011 5:00 pm  

http://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2011 If you check out Paul Johnson's stats this year you'll be surprised with his work load Matty Ashurst only made 785m in 20 games last year? Johnson has made that in 6 this seaon?

http://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2011 If you check out Paul Johnson's stats this year you'll be surprised with his work load Matty Ashurst only made 785m in 20 games last year? Johnson has made that in 6 this seaon?

Re: Matty Ashurst : Tue Mar 22, 2011 5:26 pm  

Rommel wrote:

http://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?hs1=2011&hp1=10503&hs2=2011&hp2=4901&stat=tries&season=2011

If you check out Paul Johnson's stats this year you'll be surprised with his work load

Matty Ashurst only made 785m in 20 games last year?

Johnson has made that in 6 this seaon?

Were the game times different though? Like, did Johnson play 80 minutes for his 6 this season, and Ashurst only 40 or so? Still a big difference, but it would make it less extreme!

Re: Matty Ashurst : Tue Mar 22, 2011 9:59 pm  

Why don't I remember Johnson at all?

Ashurst is another random academy second rower that will end up moving to another SL side before dripping down the leagues over the years.

Dixon is clearly better. Fist team material now IMO.

Re: Matty Ashurst : Tue Mar 22, 2011 10:59 pm  

I like both Ashurst and Dixon. The former hits the ball hard and in space (an underrated skill). The latter has very good tackling technique and workrate. Both keep mistakes to a minimum and have a clear professional mindset. It's a bit too early to come to any firm conclusions as neither has matured physically. Perhaps I give Dixon the slight edge but I could be wrong.

Re: Matty Ashurst : Wed Mar 23, 2011 9:03 am  

To be honest i camt see peoples facination With maginnes he take a pasting every time he gets the ball. Dixon and ashurst are both young solid players and will pnly get bettrt