Home grown players : Thu Oct 14, 2010 12:28 pm  

"FIGURES revealed this week show that Saints are the undisputed kings of giving homegrown talent a break into Super League. For the fourth year in a row Saints have topped the list with an average of 11.76 club trained players out of the matchday 17. That figure is ahead of Leeds on 9.56, with neighbours Wigan and Warrington trailing way behind on 7.76 and 6.6 respectively. " http://www.sthelensstar.co.uk/sport/sai ... wn_league/? Am sure Rogues will have something to say about this......

"FIGURES revealed this week show that Saints are the undisputed kings of giving homegrown talent a break into Super League. For the fourth year in a row Saints have topped the list with an average of 11.76 club trained players out of the matchday 17. That figure is ahead of Leeds on 9.56, with neighbours Wigan and Warrington trailing way behind on 7.76 and 6.6 respectively. " http://www.sthelensstar.co.uk/sport/sai ... wn_league/? Am sure Rogues will have something to say about this......

Re: Home grown players : Thu Oct 14, 2010 12:43 pm  

SO the 4 teams with the most home grown players, are the top 4 teams in the comp.

Yet hull kr have just signed their 34th aussie for next season.

Some teams need to learn signing overseas players isnt the answer

Re: Home grown players : Thu Oct 14, 2010 12:57 pm  

Would it have been so many had you not had so many injuries which I think ive heard you had?

Re: Home grown players : Thu Oct 14, 2010 1:17 pm  

Ian Roberts Closet wrote:

Would it have been so many had you not had so many injuries which I think ive heard you had?

That's one factor. We've also been sparing in our recruitment over the last couple of years (1 player per season coming in). I would suspect if we weren't having all the messing with moving out, we'd have recruited a bit better.

We have a good recruitment policy, but its effects have been exaggerated by the above imo.

Re: Home grown players : Thu Oct 14, 2010 1:18 pm  

Ian Roberts Closet wrote:

Would it have been so many had you not had so many injuries which I think ive heard you had?

I don't think it would have been far off, our major injuries have been to English players. Gidley, Meli, Flannery haven't missed a great deal. Do we count Fa'asavalau as English?

Re: Home grown players : Thu Oct 14, 2010 1:35 pm  

Billinge_Lump wrote:

I don't think it would have been far off, our major injuries have been to English players. Gidley, Meli, Flannery haven't missed a great deal. Do we count Fa'asavalau as English?

It says home grown not english!

Not doubting that you produce but as said its been exaggerated as you have had to throw players in

Re: Home grown players : Thu Oct 14, 2010 1:39 pm  

Ian Roberts Closet wrote:

It says home grown not english!

Not doubting that you produce but as said its been exaggerated as you have had to throw players in

But as the report states, we have topped the table for 4 years. That is a long enough period for injuries to even out, and shouldn't detract from Saints policy of producing their own youngsters

Re: Home grown players : Thu Oct 14, 2010 1:48 pm  

SomersetSaint wrote:

But as the report states, we have topped the table for 4 years. That is a long enough period for injuries to even out, and shouldn't detract from Saints policy of producing their own youngsters

I wouldnt doubt the policy as its clearly visible.
My original point was that this season it was so high due to your injuries would you not agree? Soliola, Gardner, Fa'asavalau, Pryce, Fozzard have all had long spells out whou would have kept some of the Emmitts of the world out? admittedly Eastmond would have played more! But think its been agreed hes made of Biscuit and a career in Yawnion is better suited to his body
Do we know what your average was for the previous 3 years?

Re: Home grown players : Thu Oct 14, 2010 1:58 pm  

Well done to Saints for throwing the young players in but the only reason it is so many is because of the injuries.

I am glad Wigan have followed Saints and Leeds down this route though.

Re: Home grown players : Thu Oct 14, 2010 1:59 pm  

Ian Roberts Closet wrote:

It says home grown not english!

Not doubting that you produce but as said its been exaggerated as you have had to throw players in

Most of our English players are homegrown though. Isn't it two years (or is it three) before 21?

Gardner and Wilkin must be close. That gives us Hargreaves, Fozzard and Pryce who aren't homegrown.

The injuries are a factor in that most got a chance, but by the end of the season Foster and Lomax were keeping Gardner out and Clough and Emmit were preferred to Fozzard.