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Loose carry or steal? : Sun Sep 26, 2010 3:47 pm  
I have to say I totally disagree with the decision that led to Leeds only try last night. To say it was a loose carry is nonsense. There was one tackler on Gleeson and then Buderus came in, didn't attempt to tackle Gleeson at all just grabbed the ball with both hands and pulled it out. Where's the loose carry? They shoulda been nilled.
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Re: Loose carry or steal? : Sun Sep 26, 2010 3:56 pm  
very true mate, I was thinking the McIllorum one cancelled it out but after watching it again McIllorum offloaded backwards.
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Re: Loose carry or steal? : Sun Sep 26, 2010 4:46 pm  
Stolen 100%
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Re: Loose carry or steal? : Sun Sep 26, 2010 4:56 pm  
Loose carry IMO. Right decision given.
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Re: Loose carry or steal? : Mon Sep 27, 2010 10:09 am  
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Loose carry IMO. Right decision given.


So explain what would have had to have happened for it to have been considered a steal?
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Re: Loose carry or steal? : Mon Sep 27, 2010 12:17 pm  
to be a steal, buderas would have had to put the ball in a bag marked swag.....
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Re: Loose carry or steal? : Mon Sep 27, 2010 12:24 pm  
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to be a steal, buderas would have had to put the ball in a bag marked swag.....


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Loose carry or steal? : Mon Sep 27, 2010 1:12 pm  
By the letter of the rules as they stand, he quite clearly ripped it out. I could not comprehend how it could have been seen any other way. I was amazed when they gave a try but then again, I shouldn't have been. Video refs get more hopeless by the week.

In my opinion this rule has got to be looked at because it's far too difficult for a referee to decide whether it's a strip or lost possession, especially without the benefit of TV. It should be the responsibility of the carrier to keep hold of the football. Ball stealing is an art and if a man can't keep hold of the ball, then he doesn't deserve to get a penalty.
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Re: Loose carry or steal? : Mon Sep 27, 2010 1:27 pm  
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By the letter of the rules as they stand, he quite clearly ripped it out. I could not comprehend how it could have been seen any other way. I was amazed when they gave a try but then again, I shouldn't have been. Video refs get more hopeless by the week.

In my opinion this rule has got to be looked at because it's far too difficult for a referee to decide whether it's a strip or lost possession, especially without the benefit of TV. It should be the responsibility of the carrier to keep hold of the football. Ball stealing is an art and if a man can't keep hold of the ball, then he doesn't deserve to get a penalty.


One of the biggest indicators for me whilst watchin it live was how the ball sprung out quite a way forward from Gleeson. He's stopped moving by that point and so for the ball to get flicked that far our it must have been stripped.

The replays clearly show it was a strip though, how it was given i'll never know.

I thought on first viewing though that a couple of our tries were fortunate, but then on the replays there's nothing wrong with any of them.
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Re: Loose carry or steal? : Mon Sep 27, 2010 1:43 pm  
it was plainly a strip, 2 in tackle, buerus' hands all over the ball, sometimes they're seen, sometimes they aren't, mcillorums offload could have easily gone against us...
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