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Re: Challenge Cup Semi : Sat Aug 01, 2015 10:16 pm  
Clear from your posts you've not the first clue about the game from a playing or coaching perspective as it's played out in reality. I guess you're one of these people who continually berates the team from the terraces 'shouting advice'. If you want to know why things don't always go well, ask your self if you're the best at your job every day.
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Re: Challenge Cup Semi : Sat Aug 01, 2015 10:28 pm  
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Clear from your posts you've not the first clue about the game from a playing or coaching perspective as it's played out in reality.


I take it you can't explain the reason for Saints' inexplicable kicking strategy yesterday, either. :D

I guess you're one of these people who continually berates the team from the terraces 'shouting advice'.


Unsurprising that you guess wrong, then. Has no one told you yet that I am one of the most infuriatingly supportive posters on this site whose "Rose Tinted Specs" are now bordering upon a registered trade mark? :lol:

If you want to know why things don't always go well, ask your self if you're the best at your job every day.


I am the best at my job. And I take pride in that fact.
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Re: Challenge Cup Semi : Sat Aug 01, 2015 10:52 pm  
Watching the other Semi Final today Saints should break the bank for Hull KR's advisors (scouts) i'd absolutely love us sign Albert Kelly and Ken Sio who are both still very young.
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Re: Challenge Cup Semi : Sat Aug 01, 2015 11:11 pm  
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Watching the other Semi Final today Saints should break the bank for Hull KR's advisors (scouts) i'd absolutely love us sign Albert Kelly and Ken Sio who are both still very young.


I'm not sure about Kelly. There doesn't seem to be anything between Hollywood or bust when I'm watching him. For me too many aspiring scrum halves make the mistake of concentrating on their strengths instead of eliminating their weaknesses.

Sean Long is a great example of someone who could easily have fallen back on the obvious talents he possessed at a young age (most notably his blistering acceleration and eye for a gap) but instead chose to do the hard thing and attack the many glaring weaknesses he had too.

When you consider he had very little kicking ability or organisational skills at Wigan it's a testament to his professionalism that he addressed those issues to such an extent he became the player he did.
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Re: Challenge Cup Semi : Sun Aug 02, 2015 7:55 am  
The point here is - it is easy to say just do this just do that. Just because your forwards might be younger they may actually lack quality and the ability to do what you are suggesting. If you look at your pack only Roby is a proven "real deal". Perhaps you miss placed belief in their ability to carry out your simple (sic)
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Your idea that if you stick to game plan the opposition will indeed capitulate is arrogant beyond belief.
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Re: Challenge Cup Semi : Sun Aug 02, 2015 8:37 am  
I've been to all 3 games so far this season between Saints and Leeds, and I've got to say we have looked best in every department. Would I swap the Leeds pack for the Saints forwards, would I hell. A lot of Saints fans forget we let Amor go because he wasn't good enough for Leeds, and with the arrival of Galloway, Garbutt, Mullaney for next season I don't see us having anything to worry about. Get Steve Ward fit to replace JJB for the 8's, and I'd be happy to play you and your "big" pack for a place at Old Trafford.
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Re: Challenge Cup Semi : Sun Aug 02, 2015 9:40 am  
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I've been to all 3 games so far this season between Saints and Leeds, and I've got to say we have looked best in every department. Would I swap the Leeds pack for the Saints forwards, would I hell. A lot of Saints fans forget we let Amor go because he wasn't good enough for Leeds, and with the arrival of Galloway, Garbutt, Mullaney for next season I don't see us having anything to worry about. Get Steve Ward fit to replace JJB for the 8's, and I'd be happy to play you and your "big" pack for a place at Old Trafford.


I agree. Some posters on here don't live in the real world. Every week they bamg on about how good our pack is but it getting beat most weeks now. If any team pins us back in our own 20m zone we struggle big time to get out which results in walsh having to kick deep in our own half which is very hard.

Alex Walmsley and James Roby are very consistent. Those two are virtually top class every week and Imo the best hooker and prop in super league. The others are hit and miss.
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Re: Challenge Cup Semi : Sun Aug 02, 2015 10:29 am  
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I've been to all 3 games so far this season between Saints and Leeds, and I've got to say we have looked best in every department. Would I swap the Leeds pack for the Saints forwards, would I hell. A lot of Saints fans forget we let Amor go because he wasn't good enough for Leeds, and with the arrival of Galloway, Garbutt, Mullaney for next season I don't see us having anything to worry about. Get Steve Ward fit to replace JJB for the 8's, and I'd be happy to play you and your "big" pack for a place at Old Trafford.


All but a handful of your side were there last season. Don't recall you even making the Grand Final. Must have been bad luck, eh?

:lol: :lol: :lol:

All the form in the world means nothing unless you win the big banana. And there's a long, long way to go yet.
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Re: Challenge Cup Semi : Sun Aug 02, 2015 11:06 am  
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The point here is - it is easy to say just do this just do that. Just because your forwards might be younger they may actually lack quality and the ability to do what you are suggesting. If you look at your pack only Roby is a proven "real deal". Perhaps you miss placed belief in their ability to carry out your simple (sic)
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Perhaps my "belief" is based on the fact that St. Helens - not Leeds - are the reigning Super League Champions. In case you have forgotten, this club played far WORSE last season and yet still triumphed. I think it tells us something rather important about what this group of players is capable of when push comes to shove.

Your idea that if you stick to game plan the opposition will indeed capitulate is arrogant beyond belief.


It's also the essence of coaching. We are not in control of the opposition so there's no point thinking about it. Like many Leeds fans you still haven't grasped a rather obvious point: three victories and all the form in the competition so far has secured you precisely ZERO trophies. Nor will such count for a single point in the Grand Final.

If you get there.

Because you didn't last season.

Perhaps you should be thinking a little more about winning the title before you carry it off?

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Re: Challenge Cup Semi : Sun Aug 02, 2015 11:31 am  
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Perhaps my "belief" is based on the fact that St. Helens - not Leeds - are the reigning Super League Champions. In case you have forgotten, this club played far WORSE last season and yet still triumphed. I think it tells us something rather important about what this group of players is capable of when push comes to shove.

It's also the essence of coaching. We are not in control of the opposition so there's no point thinking about it. Like many Leeds fans you still haven't grasped a rather obvious point: three victories and all the form in the competition so far has secured you precisely ZERO trophies. Nor will such count for a single point in the Grand Final.

If you get there.

Because you didn't last season.

Perhaps you should be thinking a little more about winning the title before you carry it off?

:lol: :lol: :lol:


Whilst true our three victories over Saints haven't won us anything in 2015 yet......you bragging about Saints winning the Grand Final LAST YEAR means even less in the context of who'll win anything this year.
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