Re: Andre Savelio : Sat Jun 27, 2015 12:30 am  

SLS wrote:

Saints will move on and continue to win.

Continue to win? We've not won much in recent years. One Grand Final win does not a dynasty make.

Re: Andre Savelio : Sat Jun 27, 2015 12:43 am  

Saddened! wrote:

Continue to win? We've not won much in recent years. One Grand Final win does not a dynasty make.

You and your faux outrage doesn't wash with me.

That one championship is more than Warrington have had in over fifty years of RL. If you're that arsed about Sav going, go follow Warrington and pray for a league championship. You can join the 3/4 generations of Warrington supporters that have been doing so for umpteen years.

Going to the NRL or Wigan and Leeds, I can get. Joining Warrington......completely nonsensical. Chasing the money. He'd have been as well signing for Salford; probably got paid more as well.

Re: Andre Savelio : Sat Jun 27, 2015 1:06 am  

4 trophies in 5 years or one trophy in 7 (thanks to Ben Flower). Savelio knows the score. He knows the future is positive with Wire. The Golden Gates tatoo isn't so bad if you compare it to the zenith of potential St Helen's tattoos- the Asda entrance framework, the circular concrete ascent to the concrete carpark leading to f all. A tattoo of the new Tesco carpark. A tattoo of Aldi.

Re: Andre Savelio : Sat Jun 27, 2015 1:38 am  

Chim Chimeny, Chim Chim Charoo
St Helens has a chimney, and f@@k all to do
Chim Chimeny, Chim Chim Charoo
Let's improve the place, and all have a poo

Re: Andre Savelio : Sat Jun 27, 2015 1:41 am  

SLS wrote:

You and your faux outrage doesn't wash with me.

That one championship is more than Warrington have had in over fifty years of RL. If you're that arsed about Sav going, go follow Warrington and pray for a league championship. You can join the 3/4 generations of Warrington supporters that have been doing so for umpteen years.

Going to the NRL or Wigan and Leeds, I can get. Joining Warrington......completely nonsensical. Chasing the money. He'd have been as well signing for Salford; probably got paid more as well.

Putting rivalry to one side, you've got to respect Warrington as a club. They are a big club with a decent history. They've won a few challenge cups in last few years and been close to winning a grand final. That's my problem with a player of Savelio's obvious potential, going to a club like that. They're a dangerous team and Savelio will strengthen them even more.

Before we won league in 96, we hadn't won league or (Challenge) cup since the 70's. Signing Newlove was a statement and I believe he was the catalyst for the start of our SL success.

We need a mouthwatering signing for next season now to show our intent for success.

Re: Andre Savelio : Sat Jun 27, 2015 2:09 am  

Scott Gibbs as well, was a great signing in the centres. I can't remember whether they played at the same time, but they played in a similar era. Newlove was a fantastic player. Big and fast with a step, signed from Featherstone as I can recall. Saints were always able to sign some big players. Wire were similar at that time with Bateman, Ellis and Rowland Philips from the welsh RU squad, but you seemed to push on more mid 90s into the start of the sl era.

Re: Andre Savelio : Sat Jun 27, 2015 8:06 am  

Magic Superbeetle wrote:

I rank Percival ahead of Savelio in our current batch, but that may because he plays a position we as a country have a chronic lack of ...

There are plenty of players who have been championed by fans who turned into a bust, and plenty who came right of left field (I will never forget a post on another forum bemoaning why the club would continue to persist with Roby (who was too small) and Graham who was never going to make it).

Savelio has the potential to do everything you say yes, but there are plenty of traps along the way where he could fall into "could of been" category... The off field matters can knock him off course, particularly so given his ongoing matters with his condition.

But since we're talking about failing potential can we add Frodsham and Clough to the list? Frodsham in particular was the best thing since sliced bread!

No way frodsham or Clough was going to be anything more than average players at best. People was ranting clough was the next jammer lol

I got bagged on here when I said our "golden generation" as they was being called of the likes of lomax, tyrer, foster, ashurst, Dixon etc would be playing in the lower leagues or salford and I was right (I got the Lomax one wrong).

I'm not the sort to be carried away when young players break thru and I believe I have a eye for talent and I knew Eastmond, percy and Sav will be top players or even workdclass.

The is no way around it that sav will be a loss for now and a massive loss when he matures into the player HE will become.

Re: Andre Savelio : Sat Jun 27, 2015 8:41 am  

Can,t say I,m overly dissapointed with Sav going elsewhere as he,s still 1 or 2 seasons away from reaching his potentional, for his career I would have thought it would have been better for his development to go to the NRL where the coaching set up is more professional. As for Wire I,m not sure if they can accelarate his potential under Smith and Agar, also Sav has lost that safety net from experienced players around him.


Wish him all the best but as as already mentioned not devastated with his decision, now if it was Walmsley, Percival or Greenwood that would be a different matter.

Re: Andre Savelio : Sat Jun 27, 2015 9:20 am  

St pete wrote:

No way frodsham or Clough was going to be anything more than average players at best. People was ranting clough was the next jammer lol

I got bagged on here when I said our "golden generation" as they was being called of the likes of lomax, tyrer, foster, ashurst, Dixon etc would be playing in the lower leagues or salford and I was right (I got the Lomax one wrong).

I'm not the sort to be carried away when young players break thru and I believe I have a eye for talent and I knew Eastmond, percy and Sav will be top players or even workdclass.

The is no way around it that sav will be a loss for now and a massive loss when he matures into the player HE will become.

Your modesty holds no bounds, eh ?

Nobody ever in my experience hailed Clough as anywhere near Graham. Equally, Gaz Frodsham was incredibly highly rated, both within the club and the game. As with all kids, the ultimate test is at first team level; some sink, some swim and on many occasions, it's the ones you expect to sink that swim fastest and furthest. All youth sports coaches know and acknowledge that it is never an exact science.

Implying that you have some kind of ability in talent spotting by telling us you rated Eastmond, Percival and Savelio is akin to telling us you're great with colours because you reckon the sky's blue. All of three of those have been rated enormously for much of their youth; all three had major competition for their signature and have been spoken of throughout their development.

I don't recall this 'golden generation' you speak of. Ashurst, Dixon, Tyrer etc were all considered hard working lads that could have a career. The real starlets were considered Eastmond and Magennis.

So, please, quit putting yourself on some pedestal when you'd be as well telling us what religion the Pope represents.

Re: Andre Savelio : Sat Jun 27, 2015 9:26 am  

SLS wrote:

Your modesty holds no bounds, eh ?

Nobody ever in my experience hailed Clough as anywhere near Graham. Equally, Gaz Frodsham was incredibly highly rated, both within the club and the game. As with all kids, the ultimate test is at first team level; some sink, some swim and on many occasions, it's the ones you expect to sink that swim fastest and furthest. All youth sports coaches know and acknowledge that it is never an exact science.

Implying that you have some kind of ability in talent spotting by telling us you rated Eastmond, Percival and Savelio is akin to telling us you're great with colours because you reckon the sky's blue. All of three of those have been rated enormously for much of their youth; all three had major competition for their signature and have been spoken of throughout their development.

I don't recall this 'golden generation' you speak of. Ashurst, Dixon, Tyrer etc were all considered hard working lads that could have a career. The real starlets were considered Eastmond and Magennis.

So, please, quit putting yourself on some pedestal when you'd be as well telling us what religion the Pope represents.

You wouldn't recall it as you only joined here last year so pretty poor post their mate. People on here was posting that we don't need to replace Lyon as we got Tyrer, we don't need to replace joynt as we have ashurst etc

We played Cas home and played about 8 kids and we hammerd them and then the usual posters was banging on about the "golden generation" but you wouldn't know as only joined last year so get back in your box.