Re: Widnes Game thread : Mon Apr 21, 2014 4:48 pm  

I don't know how people can accuse Mose of shirking after that. Him and Savelio basically took turns in carrying our pack single-handedly.

That was a frustrating game to watch, but I think we did about as well as we could have done with the pack we had out. Hand, Greenwood, Thompson and Walker all worked hard but none of them made any yards. Add to that Wellens and Wilkin who rarely make ground at the best of times and we were always going to struggle, especially when Sia had to move to centre early on.

We did show a lack of composure again, though. When your pack is up against it you really need to complete your sets, and we failed to do that again.

As for our defence, it was ropey but organisation of the defensive line is always going to be an issue when you put a scratch side together.

Re: Widnes Game thread : Mon Apr 21, 2014 4:50 pm  

Dux wrote:

I don't know how people can accuse Mose of shirking after that. Him and Savelio basically took turns in carrying our pack single-handedly.

That was a frustrating game to watch, but I think we did about as well as we could have done with the pack we had out. Hand, Greenwood, Thompson and Walker all worked hard but none of them made any yards. Add to that Wellens and Wilkin who rarely make ground at the best of times and we were always going to struggle, especially when Sia had to move to centre early on.

We did show a lack of composure again, though. When your pack is up against it you really need to complete your sets, and we failed to do that again.

As for our defence, it was ropey but organisation of the defensive line is always going to be an issue when you put a scratch side together.

I believe that team was good enough to beat that Widnes team. I thought Mose pipped Saveilo for mom as Saveilio not on long enough.

Re: Widnes Game thread : Mon Apr 21, 2014 4:51 pm  

I heard Makinson was injured in scoring his try? Did he seem to recover or are we going to be missing him next week?

Re: Widnes Game thread : Mon Apr 21, 2014 4:53 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

I heard Makinson was injured in scoring his try? Did he seem to recover or are we going to be missing him next week?

He carried on so must be ok. Looked to be holding his arm but them was limping so not sure what he hurt.

Re: Widnes Game thread : Mon Apr 21, 2014 4:53 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

I heard Makinson was injured in scoring his try? Did he seem to recover or are we going to be missing him next week?

He carried on playing and the official Facebook page said he is fine.

Re: Widnes Game thread : Mon Apr 21, 2014 4:54 pm  

St pete wrote:

I believe that team was good enough to beat that Widnes team. I thought Mose pipped Saveilo for mom as Saveilio not on long enough.

Perhaps, but it would have had to have been a performance on a par with the Leeds game.

Savelio should be in the team every week from now on, IMO.

Re: Widnes Game thread : Mon Apr 21, 2014 4:58 pm  

Dux wrote:

I don't know how people can accuse Mose of shirking after that. Him and Savelio basically took turns in carrying our pack single-handedly.

That was a frustrating game to watch, but I think we did about as well as we could have done with the pack we had out. Hand, Greenwood, Thompson and Walker all worked hard but none of them made any yards. Add to that Wellens and Wilkin who rarely make ground at the best of times and we were always going to struggle, especially when Sia had to move to centre early on.

We did show a lack of composure again, though. When your pack is up against it you really need to complete your sets, and we failed to do that again.

As for our defence, it was ropey but organisation of the defensive line is always going to be an issue when you put a scratch side together.

You not think that team was good enough to beat a poor Widnes team? I didn't fancy us until I saw their team.

Hohaia, makinson, wheeler, jones, wello, Wilkin, Mose, Sia, Lms will all be disappointed if not in our 19 each week and the likes of greenwood, walker and Thompson all played super league.

We had chances and blew them.

Re: Widnes Game thread : Mon Apr 21, 2014 5:02 pm  

Not a great time to be in such a mess. This kind of decline in form would have been fine had it come the week after next. It's going to take an extraordinary performance to beat Leeds on their patch now. Winning the big games in RL is about momentum from game to game. Our form graph would be pointing to the ground, Leeds the other way. We'll struggle to score 20 points and we'll really struggle to keep them short of 30.

Attitude has got to be there though. The last two games have shown we're lacking in the mental aspects of the game, we got out enthused and out fought by Wigan and didn't have the strength to be composed against Widnes. The effort, commitment and aggression needs to go up massively for next week and we've got to be clinical, no more wasting sets through not respecting the ball.

Re: Widnes Game thread : Mon Apr 21, 2014 5:05 pm  

St pete wrote:

You not think that team was good enough to beat a poor Widnes team?

No.

SL isn't what is used to be. The top teams have declined enormously, the bottom also declined, but the middle has stayed where it is. The likes of Cas, Widnes, Hull, Hull KR, Wakefield, Catalans, Huddersfield are now all places we're going to have to play well to win at, even at full strength. Any messing about and we'll lose, as happened today.

Re: Widnes Game thread : Mon Apr 21, 2014 5:06 pm  

Dux wrote:

Perhaps, but it would have had to have been a performance on a par with the Leeds game.

Savelio should be in the team every week from now on, IMO.

Agreed, I'd play Andre off the bench from now. He's pure power and hard to put down. My only concern is his fitness. He's knackered after 10 mins and with our current prop situation could be a risk.