Re: Foster to Hull : Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:37 pm  

Sthelens RLFC wrote:

I'd always rather a homegrown player be in our starting 17 than an import as it shows that the academy coaching staff are doing their job. However, for me now, Meli and Makinson offer much more than Foster in every facet of the game other than goalkicking and Tommy isn't making too bad a job of that. If Meli moves on and Foster plays as well as he did last night and in the 2011 season, he may have the opportunity of coming back and reclaiming the wing spot but I get the feeling he has no future at Saints.

at times, Makinson's goal kicking has been laughably bad, luckily it hasn't cost us yet.

Makinson has also been lucky twice in recent weeks that his howlers haven't cost us the games against Widnes and Catalans.

Re: Foster to Hull : Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:47 pm  

EHW wrote:

at times, Makinson's goal kicking has been laughably bad, luckily it hasn't cost us yet.

Makinson has also been lucky twice in recent weeks that his howlers haven't cost us the games against Widnes and Catalans.

I'm not so sure his kicking is as bad as you make out, else Lomax would have been kicking more often.

As for his howlers, although he didn't handle the situation at widnes very well, he was beaten by the bounce of the ball for the try, which can happen. He has shown some VERY could takes of a high ball in traffic. As for the catalan one, well, he was impeded

Re: Foster to Hull : Tue Jul 24, 2012 6:18 pm  

Offside Monkey wrote:

I'm not so sure his kicking is as bad as you make out, else Lomax would have been kicking more often.

As for his howlers, although he didn't handle the situation at widnes very well, he was beaten by the bounce of the ball for the try, which can happen. He has shown some VERY could takes of a high ball in traffic. As for the catalan one, well, he was impeded

Bounce of the ball??? That's what did it for Foster wasn't it???

Moral of the tale, don't let it bounce.


I thought Foster did well, especially given the howler of a kick that he started with. I think people have called time on his career to early. I agree he will struggle to get back in the side at present as Makinson and Meli are holding their positions. But Meli may not sign? Makinson maybe a longer term move to FB?

Also Makinson is not infalable and it would be gross neglegence to only have 2 decent wingers and no cover other than that. You always need someone who can step in for injury rather than moving the centres or a 2nd rower out there to cover a few weeks of injury. It just so happens that this year we have had a good run with injuries.

Any injuries have been short lived and have come in where there were breaks such as CC games and exiles games. Touch wood.

Re: Foster to Hull : Tue Jul 24, 2012 7:27 pm  

I thought foster did well, he didn't do anything special but didn't make any silly mistakes that he was making at saints.

Makinson seems to have lost a little confidence, the way his head dropped at Widnes did surprise me as he'd lost his head and didn't want the ball.

Re: Foster to Hull : Tue Jul 24, 2012 7:34 pm  

St pete wrote:

I thought foster did well, he didn't do anything special but didn't make any silly mistakes that he was making at saints.

At Saints? Hardly. He made mistakes in a couple of matches, that is all. He was good for us last season and not too bad at the start of this season too. Let's keep this in proportion.

Makinson seems to have lost a little confidence, the way his head dropped at Widnes did surprise me as he'd lost his head and didn't want the ball.

Thankfully no harm done as he played a blinder on Friday night.

Re: Foster to Hull : Tue Jul 24, 2012 7:37 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

At Saints? Hardly. He made mistakes in a couple of matches, that is all. He was good for us last season and not too bad at the start of this season too. Let's keep this in proportion.

Thankfully no harm done as he played a blinder on Friday night.

Foster was shocking this year, total liability and cost us games. Rush and KC was right to take him out for his own good.

Unlucky for Jamie that the team went on a good winning run with tommy and meli playing well which means Jamie can't get a kick.

Re: Foster to Hull : Tue Jul 24, 2012 7:45 pm  

St pete wrote:

Foster was shocking this year, total liability and cost us games. Rush and KC was right to take him out for his own good.

He wasn't shocking. He had a couple of howlers and coincidentally so did many of his team mates. Stop exaggerating.

Unlucky for Jamie that the team went on a good winning run with tommy and meli playing well which means Jamie can't get a kick.

Tommy doesn't deserve to be dropped but he will be once Gardner is fit again. How is Meli playing well exactly? Has he suddenly become the best defender in the game? Does he dash around the pitch looking for work? Does he dive in there and help out his team mates in the tackle? Has he suddenly developed an ability to deal with a bouncing ball or catch a bomb whenever one is put up in the air?

He's scored some tries. Woo hoo! No different from any other season.

Re: Foster to Hull : Tue Jul 24, 2012 8:40 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

He wasn't shocking. He had a couple of howlers and coincidentally so did many of his team mates. Stop exaggerating.

Tommy doesn't deserve to be dropped but he will be once Gardner is fit again. How is Meli playing well exactly? Has he suddenly become the best defender in the game? Does he dash around the pitch looking for work? Does he dive in there and help out his team mates in the tackle? Has he suddenly developed an ability to deal with a bouncing ball or catch a bomb whenever one is put up in the air?

He's scored some tries. Woo hoo! No different from any other season.

You've got something against Meli, hes played well this season.

Re: Foster to Hull : Tue Jul 24, 2012 8:46 pm  

St pete wrote:

You've got something against Meli, hes played well this season.

I will never forgive him for his part in our downfall in the GF. I told you that straight after the GF.

And he's been playing no better or worse than last season, or in fact any of the other seasons. He's just the same.

He played well in the Exiles games, I'll give you that.

But could you see Meli ever scoring a try of the kind Makinson scored on Friday night?

Or chasing down a player to secure a dropout like Foster did on Monday night?

Re: Foster to Hull : Tue Jul 24, 2012 8:49 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

I will never forgive him for his part in our downfall in the GF. I told you that straight after the GF.

And he's been playing no better or worse than last season, or in fact any of the other seasons. He's just the same.

He played well in the Exiles games, I'll give you that.

But could you see Meli ever scoring a try of the kind Makinson scored on Friday night?

Or chasing down a player to secure a dropout like Foster did on Monday night?

He always plays better in the exiles games, could it be that saints don't get the ball to him enough?