Re: Where are Jon Wilkin's priorities? : Mon Mar 26, 2012 10:50 am  

bewareshadows wrote:

Millwards is the most successful Saints coach, I also think sacking him when we did was a mistake.

Millward coached Saints between 2000 - 2005 and won 2 SL titles, 2 Challenge Cups and 1 WCC.

Anderson coached Saints 2005 - 2008 and won 1 SL title, 3 Challenge Cups, 1 WCC and 4 League Leaders shields.

Anderson won more silverware in a shorter period so surely that makes him our most successful coach and proves the sacking of Millward was correct??

Re: Where are Jon Wilkin's priorities? : Mon Mar 26, 2012 11:02 am  

wakey_saint wrote:

Millward was correct??

But as we've said, Millward's sacking was because of off the field issues. Verbal abuse of a member of the press was the final straw, I guess it went down as gross misconduct, as there was no suspension period (from what I recall).

Re: Where are Jon Wilkin's priorities? : Mon Mar 26, 2012 11:42 am  

wakey_saint wrote:

Millward coached Saints between 2000 - 2005 and won 2 SL titles, 2 Challenge Cups and 1 WCC.

Anderson coached Saints 2005 - 2008 and won 1 SL title, 3 Challenge Cups, 1 WCC and 4 League Leaders shields.

Anderson won more silverware in a shorter period so surely that makes him our most successful coach and proves the sacking of Millward was correct??

I did not argue that the sacking was wrong, but the timing really disrupted our season, hence knocking off another possible GF and CC from the clubs records. Also Millward could not win anything in 2005 he was sacked.

When counting league leaders shields Millward had 1 and a half. Anderson 3 and half. 2005 split.

We can all bend stats to suit our own agenda, but I'd argue that Millward was more successful, but its the difference between very successful and very successful.

Re: Where are Jon Wilkin's priorities? : Mon Mar 26, 2012 2:48 pm  

Although Millward was a very successful coach, and his stewardship has left me with some of my greatest sporting memories, I think his time was starting to come to an end by the time he left.

Re: Where are Jon Wilkin's priorities? : Sat Mar 31, 2012 6:51 am  

Another massive performance from Wilkin in the post Royce regime. Obviously back in his best role and having a massive influence. Nice to see Rushy name him as one of the senior players who is looking after the young lads as well.

Mugwump? SaintsFan?

Re: Where are Jon Wilkin's priorities? : Sat Mar 31, 2012 9:23 am  

Sthelens RLFC wrote:

Another massive performance from Wilkin in the post Royce regime. Obviously back in his best role and having a massive influence. Nice to see Rushy name him as one of the senior players who is looking after the young lads as well.

Mugwump? SaintsFan?

I was impressed with wilkin last night.

Re: Where are Jon Wilkin's priorities? : Sat Mar 31, 2012 9:32 am  

Sthelens RLFC wrote:

Another massive performance from Wilkin in the post Royce regime. Obviously back in his best role and having a massive influence. Nice to see Rushy name him as one of the senior players who is looking after the young lads as well.

Mugwump? SaintsFan?

Wilkin put in loads of massive performances last season too - said many times on here - and that's why his early season bad attitude was noticeable.

Re: Where are Jon Wilkin's priorities? : Sat Mar 31, 2012 9:36 am  

SaintsFan wrote:

Wilkin put in loads of massive performances last season too - said many times on here - and that's why his early season bad attitude was noticeable.

I agree and went as far to say that wilkin was the best backrow in super league last year.

Wilkin suites the little plays around the rucks with the little short passes and off loads as he's good good hands.

Re: Where are Jon Wilkin's priorities? : Sat Mar 31, 2012 9:46 am  

St pete wrote:

Wilkin suites the little plays around the rucks with the little short passes and off loads as he's good good hands.

Yep. He and Roby had that going well at times last season. Remember the first playoff against Wigan? Some of the stuff we played in that game alone was great to watch. We pulled Wigan all over the place.

Re: Where are Jon Wilkin's priorities? : Sat Mar 31, 2012 9:46 am  

SaintsFan wrote:

Wilkin put in loads of massive performances last season too - said many times on here - and that's why his early season bad attitude was noticeable.

Being asked to play a different role doesn't = bad attitude.