Re: Has the Leeds Era come to an end? : Thu Sep 02, 2010 9:37 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

I wanted us to win it last year, but only because I was sick of going to the theatre of queens and losing. But other than that I personally don't put more emphasis on the Grand Final as I do on the Challenge Cup or the hubcap, which is probably why I consider Saints to have been the most successful team in the last six years rather than Leeds. If you make the Grand Final cup your only measure of success then I guess as a Saints fan you'll be pretty depressed! However, to me silverware is silverware and it's all of equal value so I have taken much joy in the pots we have stacked on our shelves over the last six years and because there are so many of them, plus the very fact that we are four times Grand Finalists, I consider us to be the more successful team. We might not continue to be but up to now we have been. In Superleague, in fact, not just the last six years. 2006 alone makes us stand out.

You don't put emphasis on being crowned Champions? Oh dear.

You a Saints fan? With a name like that, I guess not.

Oh. Dear.

Re: Has the Leeds Era come to an end? : Fri Sep 03, 2010 4:26 am  

SaintsFan wrote:

You really are still bitter about Saturday aren't you?

you clearly can't come up with a well thought out,and reasoned response to my last points i take it?
it sounds more like you're the bitter one love but can't/wont come out and admit it will you?
although you nearlyly did let it slip didn't you?

SaintsFan wrote:

I wanted us to win it last year, but only because I was sick of going to the theatre of queens and losing.

Re: Has the Leeds Era come to an end? : Fri Sep 03, 2010 6:13 am  

SaintsFan wrote:

You a Saints fan? With a name like that, I guess not.

Re: Has the Leeds Era come to an end? : Fri Sep 03, 2010 7:21 am  

SaintsFan wrote:

You a Saints fan? With a name like that, I guess not.

Re: Has the Leeds Era come to an end? : Fri Sep 03, 2010 8:35 am  

Offside Monkey wrote:

:shock:

I'll put it into footballing terms to see if it gets through to you SaintsFan

Man Utd win the league for 3 years on the trot and a few charity shields along the way
Chelsea win the league cup and or fa cup (which ever) for 7 times since 1998?

Who is the more successful team?

Re: Has the Leeds Era come to an end? : Fri Sep 03, 2010 11:30 am  

Sam Buca wrote:

:lol:

I'll put it into footballing terms to see if it gets through to you SaintsFan

Man Utd win the league for 3 years on the trot and a few charity shields along the way
Chelsea win the league cup and or fa cup (which ever) for 7 times since 1998?

Who is the more successful team?

Not Chelsea

SaintsFan is living on a different planet. How anyone can say Saints have been the most successful team over the last 6 seasons is beyond me

Re: Has the Leeds Era come to an end? : Fri Sep 03, 2010 5:09 pm  

Dux wrote:

:oops:

Well, if you took what I said seriously then that would be the case.

Jeez.

It just fell flat. McClennan - Leeds coach - bigging up Leeds, etc.

Re: Has the Leeds Era come to an end? : Fri Sep 03, 2010 5:10 pm  

TheOtherOne wrote:

SaintsFan is living on a different planet. How anyone can say Saints have been the most successful team over the last 6 seasons is beyond me

Quite easily. They have. I just don't suffer from tunnel vision like some RL fans do. They've bought into the Sky hype hook, line and sinker.

Re: Has the Leeds Era come to an end? : Fri Sep 03, 2010 5:13 pm  

Billinge_Lump wrote:

You don't put emphasis on being crowned Champions? Oh dear.

Why oh dear? I don't view the Grand Final trophy as any more or less of an achievement than the Challenge Cup. I also think the hubcap is an achievement worthy of celebration.

Different perspective on success, that's all. If you're happy measuring success solely on the basis of the number of Grand Finals a team has won then you can't have gotten a great deal of pleasure from Saints' success over the years!

Re: Has the Leeds Era come to an end? : Fri Sep 03, 2010 9:34 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

Why oh dear? I don't view the Grand Final trophy as any more or less of an achievement than the Challenge Cup. I also think the hubcap is an achievement worthy of celebration.

Different perspective on success, that's all. If you're happy measuring success solely on the basis of the number of Grand Finals a team has won then you can't have gotten a great deal of pleasure from Saints' success over the years!

I regard each season to have different criteria for success, the last two years we've barely spent on new players and have concentrated on building up the youth, in that respect 2nd in the league, Grand Finalists and CC semi finalists is a pretty successful year. I don't expect us to be Champions each year, but in all honesty I expect us to be at least competing, which we have done for the last decade or so. If I were to choose which trophy to concentrate on, it would be the league rather than the Challenge Cup. I get more joy out of being crowned League Champions than I do as Challenge Cup winners.

In regard to the league, the winners of the Grand Final are the team that are crowned Champions, that is all that matters. I enjoy every trophy we win, though I would not go overboard about the hubcap as it means little if you aren't then crowned Champions.

However, I would not regard the Challenge Cup winners to have had as successful a season as the League Champions, I think you're pretty much on your own there if you think they have.