Re: THE Derby : Fri Apr 03, 2015 4:40 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

No. They ruined last SEASON as well. They didn't ruin the Grand Final, fortunately. But I got very little joy out of watching a patched up team playing when we could have had so much better. I don't just live for the Grand Final like some fans do. I want to enjoy my rugby during the season as well.

We have had 'bad ones' since 2011. Every season including and since 2011 we have had swathes of injuries undermining us. And no, not every team has that degree of injury. Leeds don't, Warrington don't, Wigan don't, Huddersfield don't. It's the same teams each season: us, Widnes, Wakefield. Every season they get hit not by the odd one or two, which you would expect, but by numerous injuries and frankly I'm fed up of it. I don't believe it is anything to do with luck.

Yes it's just saints that have all the injuries isnt it. Take you saints tinted specs off. It's full contact rugby league and all teams have injuries.

Re: THE Derby : Fri Apr 03, 2015 4:43 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

Fair play to him for that. But perhaps we should have gone with someone from the academy? They had Manfredi playing who is a relative newb and Hampshire too.

why didn't we put Manfradi and Hampshire undsr any pressure. We had chances to put the ball in the air but continued with little kicks to the ground.

Re: THE Derby : Fri Apr 03, 2015 4:46 pm  

St pete wrote:

why didn't we put Manfradi and Hampshire undsr any pressure. We had chances to put the ball in the air but continued with little kicks to the ground.

Because our decision-making was all over the place. Which was surely because we had no half backs. I think we did about as well as we could have done under the circumstances today. If there's one area where we could have done better it was in our discipline when we had Wigan coming out of their own 30.

Re: THE Derby : Fri Apr 03, 2015 4:52 pm  

Dux wrote:

Because our decision-making was all over the place. Which was surely because we had no half backs. I think we did about as well as we could have done under the circumstances today. If there's one area where we could have done better it was in our discipline when we had Wigan coming out of their own 30.

Halfback or no halfbacks I'm pretty sure Turner, lance or robes could have put the ball up in the air. Turner can't half kick a ball and he could have put snow on it but we still put those poor little kicks in.

Can't knock saints today tho wirh the injuries and losing two players during the game. It's not just injuries but it's to the key players.

Walsh shouid be back next week so let's hope he hits the ground running

Re: THE Derby : Fri Apr 03, 2015 4:54 pm  

St pete wrote:

Yes it's just saints that have all the injuries isnt it. Take you saints tinted specs off. It's full contact rugby league and all teams have injuries.

Saints Fan does have a point though we do have an excessive amount of injuries especially in the key pivot positions and we are most probably the most handicapped team because of it.

We look tougher and better conditioned this season but again we seem to have an unfair share of bad luck especially when we lose 2 or 3 players per game.

Re: THE Derby : Fri Apr 03, 2015 4:58 pm  

St pete wrote:

Halfback or no halfbacks I'm pretty sure Turner, lance or robes could have put the ball up in the air. Turner can't half kick a ball and he could have put snow on it but we still put those poor little kicks in.

Can't knock saints today tho wirh the injuries and losing two players during the game. It's not just injuries but it's to the key players.

Walsh shouid be back next week so let's hope he hits the ground running

But it's not just about the ability to kick a ball. It's about the ability to weigh up the situation quickly and make the right decision under great pressure. Turner might be good at the former but he isn't at the latter - because he isn't a halfback. But I think generally we're in agreement - I don't see too much to worry about, and once Walsh is back in I think we'll be fine. But I'd be inclined to give Hewitt a run in the meantime.

Re: THE Derby : Fri Apr 03, 2015 5:05 pm  

St pete wrote:

Halfback or no halfbacks I'm pretty sure Turner, lance or robes could have put the ball up in the air. Turner can't half kick a ball and he could have put snow on it but we still put those poor little kicks in.

We had no chance of that, wigan players was always in front of Bentham at the play the ball to improve there line speed, it also greatly effected our deep kicking game. Wigan played the right tactics today by holding our pack and giving less time for our halves.

Re: THE Derby : Fri Apr 03, 2015 5:24 pm  

Judder Man wrote:

We had no chance of that, wigan players was always in front of Bentham at the play the ball to improve there line speed, it also greatly effected our deep kicking game. Wigan played the right tactics today by holding our pack and giving less time for our halves.

It's simple, on last tackle you give yourself more room. Jesus, I was doing that at 10yrs old! Surley fulltime experienced pros can stand 2m further back.

Re: THE Derby : Fri Apr 03, 2015 5:25 pm  

why do they persist in barging up the middle instead of getting the ball out wide..a few times today we had a 2 to 1 overlap but no up they went just barging!

Re: THE Derby : Fri Apr 03, 2015 5:29 pm  

Dux wrote:

But it's not just about the ability to kick a ball. It's about the ability to weigh up the situation quickly and make the right decision under great pressure. Turner might be good at the former but he isn't at the latter - because he isn't a halfback. But I think generally we're in agreement - I don't see too much to worry about, and once Walsh is back in I think we'll be fine. But I'd be inclined to give Hewitt a run in the meantime.

I was dissapointed Hewitt didn't get to play in both friendlies at the start of the year tbh.

He's very frustrated at the moment at not getting a run and I don't blame him. We lose walsh and can't get a kick, we lose walsh and burns and can't get a kick and now we have burns, walsh and Wilkin out and still no game time.

It suggests to me that KC doesn't rate him or thinks he's not ready yet.