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Re: Shamefully bad : Sun Sep 07, 2014 11:30 am  
Which is why we moved him to the hooking role in the U19's. Perhaps more suited to that role.
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Re: Shamefully bad : Mon Sep 08, 2014 11:53 am  
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The whole country has halfback problems. Nobody seems to be bringing and scrumhalfs thru.


Spot on, this. Seems to me as though modern back lines are coached by the wrong people these days. In the past, it'd be the halves that orchestrated the attacks, now it seems to be pre-planned by those off the pitch. It now has an air of practice, practice, practice and fock trying anything new.
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Re: Shamefully bad : Mon Sep 08, 2014 11:59 am  
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Spot on, this. Seems to me as though modern back lines are coached by the wrong people these days. In the past, it'd be the halves that orchestrated the attacks, now it seems to be pre-planned by those off the pitch. It now has an air of practice, practice, practice and fock trying anything new.


I think this has come from more the change of defences, because they're much more structured now. It's hard to break down a structured defence with off the cuff play which is why more structured attacks (Wigan, Cas, Leeds, for example) tend to be more successful.

For me, Warrington are one of the few who deliberately play without much structure in attack. When it works for them they usually score highly but it can often result in them falling flat on their face as the defences can shut it down.
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Re: Shamefully bad : Mon Sep 08, 2014 4:08 pm  
Sorry that its so late as I'm only just watching the game back.

How come you were all booing and singing "4 points to the referee" after our first try? I didn't see anything wrong with it?
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Re: Shamefully bad : Mon Sep 08, 2014 4:17 pm  
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Sorry that its so late as I'm only just watching the game back.

How come you were all booing and singing "4 points to the referee" after our first try? I didn't see anything wrong with it?


I think it was due to the penalty given against LMS for leaning round at the play of the ball. IMO it was an incorrect call, I didn't see much wrong with what he did.
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Re: Shamefully bad : Mon Sep 08, 2014 7:07 pm  
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Sorry that its so late as I'm only just watching the game back.

How come you were all booing and singing "4 points to the referee" after our first try? I didn't see anything wrong with it?


A few things. The penalty Monaghan got where he feigned injury was the softest penalty ever. Then the ref gave the 'offside' call against a player with two feet behind his own try line :CRAZY: LMS reached in, but the ball was played far too far forward by Warrington, meaning the Saints players could reach it from behind the line. Surely to god, as soon as it's touched by the Wire dummy half, they can do what they like?

It had no bearing on the outcome at all, but the refereeing was appalling throughout. Farcical calls, farcical control of the game. It got to the point where the touch judges were overulling him all the time.
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Re: Shamefully bad : Mon Sep 08, 2014 7:42 pm  
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A few things. The penalty Monaghan got where he feigned injury was the softest penalty ever. Then the ref gave the 'offside' call against a player with two feet behind his own try line :CRAZY: LMS reached in, but the ball was played far too far forward by Warrington, meaning the Saints players could reach it from behind the line. Surely to god, as soon as it's touched by the Wire dummy half, they can do what they like?

It had no bearing on the outcome at all, but the refereeing was appalling throughout. Farcical calls, farcical control of the game. It got to the point where the touch judges were overulling him all the time.


We were saying the same thing that LMS had his feet behind the try line and was using the post to reach over to the play the ball that was too close to the defensive line.
Monaghan made it open season for Jones to make an impact tackle, I think it was a "lucky dip" by the officials that Monaghan needed protection.
How Child got the highest performance score over the games this weekend I dont know.
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Re: Shamefully bad : Tue Sep 09, 2014 6:47 am  
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How Child got the highest performance score over the games this weekend I dont know.

Because he got the game in which Saints were beaten, which is all it takes this season, given that Cas are on our shoulder and that's the team everyone wants to win the LLS.
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