Re: One thing we MUST learn from Wigan : Fri Oct 11, 2013 8:32 am  

yes they was injured but last season you can guarantee they would of played through it. by the way didn't we beat huddersfield and leeds with out O'loughlin. Be all and end all wigan won the double and 100 percent didn't go all out for the league leaders and anybody who thinks they did are kidding them selves.

Re: One thing we MUST learn from Wigan : Sat Oct 12, 2013 7:34 am  

The fact is wigan fans have double standards.

Last year leeds title didn't count and was hollow because they won it from 5th.

However this year, wigan won it from 4th and it does count, it's evidence of the greatest sporting institution on the planet, an unbelievable achievment, true champions blah blah blah.

Fact is by discrediting leeds title win last year, they have also discredited their own this year. Can't have it both ways. If you went on their forum, went back a year and dredged up some of the threads and quotes, guess what would happen? You would probably be banned as a troll, because they would look like idiots.

It's similiar to how fans used to treat the WCC. Someone else wins it and the aussies don't give a crap. It's a pre season friendly. Your teams wins it and it's further evidence of the superior place in the world game.

Re: One thing we MUST learn from Wigan : Sat Oct 12, 2013 8:17 am  

dubairl wrote:

Be all and end all wigan won the double and 100 percent didn't go all out for the league leaders and anybody who thinks they did are kidding them selves.

Traces of arrogance here, most of my mates are Wigan Fans and don,t have the same viewpoint as you, I.m assuming you,ve heard about the change in effort to try and win the league from the man himself Mr Wane, or maybe its a mental adjustment in failing to do the treble..........

Re: One thing we MUST learn from Wigan : Sat Oct 12, 2013 9:43 am  

Judder Man wrote:

Traces of arrogance here, most of my mates are Wigan Fans and don,t have the same viewpoint as you, I.m assuming you,ve heard about the change in effort to try and win the league from the man himself Mr Wane, or maybe its a mental adjustment in failing to do the treble..........

no its very easy and clear to see wigan's attitude in the plays off was far different from the one closing out the season, anybody trying to say otherwise is kidding them selves.

Re: One thing we MUST learn from Wigan : Sat Oct 12, 2013 9:46 am  

dubairl wrote:

no its very easy and clear to see wigan's attitude in the plays off was far different from the one closing out the season, anybody trying to say otherwise is kidding them selves.

Are you sure you are not confusing it with a drop off in form!!

Re: One thing we MUST learn from Wigan : Sat Oct 12, 2013 9:46 am  

FlexWheeler wrote:

The fact is wigan fans have double standards.

Last year leeds title didn't count and was hollow because they won it from 5th.

However this year, wigan won it from 4th and it does count, it's evidence of the greatest sporting institution on the planet, an unbelievable achievment, true champions blah blah blah.

Fact is by discrediting leeds title win last year, they have also discredited their own this year. Can't have it both ways. If you went on their forum, went back a year and dredged up some of the threads and quotes, guess what would happen? You would probably be banned as a troll, because they would look like idiots.

It's similiar to how fans used to treat the WCC. Someone else wins it and the aussies don't give a crap. It's a pre season friendly. Your teams wins it and it's further evidence of the superior place in the world game.

still stand by that, when all teams are playing at a high intensity the league is harder to win than the grand final. Just Wigan and Warrington rotated all season and not going all out for the league leaders unlike previous seasons, ironically i think leeds tried a lot harder in the league this season than in the previous 2.

Re: One thing we MUST learn from Wigan : Sat Oct 12, 2013 9:49 am  

Judder Man wrote:

You sure you are not confusing it with a drop off in form!!

lucky we come to form just at the right time then? haha.

Wane rested players when it didn't matter and the players attitudes wasn't that resembling of the attitude in the play offs.

Re: One thing we MUST learn from Wigan : Sat Oct 12, 2013 9:55 am  

dubairl wrote:

lucky we come to form just at the right time then? haha.

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To win the League Leaders shield you didn,t.

Sorry.....................my apologises that doesn,t count this season.

Re: One thing we MUST learn from Wigan : Sat Oct 12, 2013 10:01 am  

Judder Man wrote:

To win the League Leaders shield you didn,t.

Sorry.....................my apologises that doesn,t count this season.

nice deflection i guess

Re: One thing we MUST learn from Wigan : Sat Oct 12, 2013 5:30 pm  

dubairl wrote:

still stand by that,

stand by what? That leeds title win last year was hollow, but wigans this year isn't, even though the circumstances are similiar?

The same reasons which you used to rubbish leeds title last year could be used to rubbish wigan's title this year.

The argument is all bollox. It's playground logic. A title, is a title, is a title. You might as well argue wigan's title in 1998 was hollow because bradford were sh*t, saints were sh*t, and leeds, the only decent challenger hadn't won a title in nearly 30 years so were inexperienced, so wigan won by default.......hollow title!!

Wigan fans are bad losers, but even worse winners.