Re: Gareth O'Brien : Mon Sep 02, 2013 9:38 pm  

Judder Man wrote:

Pretty accurate description of Makinson, he,s improved this year under Brown. However, for me he,s still an average winger with a very limited skill set, Swift has the better potential.

I think that's a tad harsh, I remember him scoring an amazing try against Brent Webb in the gf a few years ago and skinning the Wigan centre on the outside, he's shown some glimpses of brilliance, now needs to make them more common!

Re: Gareth O'Brien : Tue Sep 03, 2013 6:50 am  

Saint Simon wrote:

I think that's a tad harsh, I remember him scoring an amazing try against Brent Webb in the gf a few years ago and skinning the Wigan centre on the outside, he's shown some glimpses of brilliance, now needs to make them more common!

It helps when he's actually given the chance. He's suffered for playing on our right, where the ball hardly goes. When he does get the ball he often does something productive with it. And he can pull off some great defence too. One effort that stands out is 2011 play off against Wigan at their place when he caught Carmont out and sent him into touch after playing with him first. Loved that, especially within the context of the game.

Re: Gareth O'Brien : Tue Sep 03, 2013 6:57 am  

SaintsFan wrote:

It helps when he's actually given the chance. He's suffered for playing on our right, where the ball hardly goes. When he does get the ball he often does something productive with it. And he can pull off some great defence too. One effort that stands out is 2011 play off against Wigan at their place when he caught Carmont out and sent him into touch after playing with him first. Loved that, especially within the context of the game.

And he created the move that scored the winning try against Wigan this year too! With better ball (I think Walsh will help with that) he should keep getting better

Re: Gareth O'Brien : Tue Sep 03, 2013 7:10 am  

Can we not do this again. It seems who ever comes through the ranks we have to start picking sides. ie x is better than y. Can't we simply support both wingers. Both have had to earn their spot under Brown.

Re: Gareth O'Brien : Tue Sep 03, 2013 7:15 am  

bewareshadows wrote:

Can we not do this again. It seems who ever comes through the ranks we have to start picking sides. ie x is better than y. Can't we simply support both wingers. Both have had to earn their spot under Brown.

The point is we have two decent wingers in makinson and swift, why give Ade a contract, he's way behind either

Re: Gareth O'Brien : Tue Sep 03, 2013 11:37 am  

Saint Simon wrote:

The point is we have two decent wingers in makinson and swift, why give Ade a contract, he's way behind either

Re: Gareth O'Brien : Tue Sep 03, 2013 12:39 pm  

If we can't bring a SO in, maybe give Lomax a go there, and move Swift to FB?

Re: Gareth O'Brien : Tue Sep 03, 2013 2:42 pm  

Carlos Alberto wrote:

If we can't bring a SO in, maybe give Lomax a go there, and move Swift to FB?

Why? He has done a great job on the wing, so why move him?

I'd be more inclined to think that IF WE DON'T BRING IN A 6 we will use Wilkin there or go with Wheeler. That means that LMS can continue at 13 also.

1. Lomax
2. Makinson
3. Percival
4. Turner
5. Swift
6. Wilkin
7. Walsh
8. Laffranchi
9. Roby
10. Beaumont
11. Manu
12. Soliola
13. LMS

14. Masoe
15. Walmsley
16. Jones
17. Flanagan

Starting props depress me, that is our priority I think.

Re: Gareth O'Brien : Tue Sep 03, 2013 4:12 pm  

Albion wrote:

Starting props depress me, that is our priority I think.

Saints have made enquiries about Tom Spencer at Wigan.

Re: Gareth O'Brien : Tue Sep 03, 2013 5:47 pm  

Saint Simon wrote:

The point is we have two decent wingers in makinson and swift, why give Ade a contract, he's way behind either

Exactly.