Re: Huddersfield match thread : Mon Feb 04, 2013 10:52 pm  

I honestly can't believe people are blaiming Saturday's antics on the half backs.

In order for a 6 and 7 to function, they need to be playing on the front foot, and that is determined by the pack. If the forwards at not getting over the advantage, and are being physically dominated by the opposition six, then you have no chance. Take on Sat Danny Brough for example, he was on the front foot from the first minute to the last, and the speed and aggression that his forwards were taking the ball up with gave them a quick ptb, which allowed him the time and space to control the game, and he did just that.

Put it this way, Andrew Johns couldn't have done any better playing behind that set of forwards on Saturday.

Re: Huddersfield match thread : Mon Feb 04, 2013 10:53 pm  

PONNER wrote:

Hi guys, i've not come here to gloat but just to ask what the connection with saints and Fielden was as some of your fans bood him when he touched the ball. Is there some ill feelings towards him for a reason?

he played for wigan i guess?
and dont ask about robinson etc. all clubs have stupid fans, not just us

Re: Huddersfield match thread : Mon Feb 04, 2013 10:57 pm  

Tez the Saint wrote:

I honestly can't believe people are blaiming Saturday's antics on the half backs.

In order for a 6 and 7 to function, they need to be playing on the front foot, and that is determined by the pack. If the forwards at not getting over the advantage, and at bing physically dominated by the opposition six, then you have no chance. Take on Sat Danny Brough for example, he was on the front foot from the first minute to the last, and the speed and aggression that his forwards were taking the ball up with gave them a quick ptb, which allowed him the time and space to control the game, and he did just that.

Put it this way, Andrew Johns couldn't have done any better playing behind that set of forwards on Saturday.

I agree that the lack of pack success limited the half-backs' options, but it's too simple to suggest they're blameless. In one key area, they were woeful, and it had nothing to do with the pack. Once again, our kicking game was terrible. Not only did it have no direction, but it had no length either. If the pack is being knocked back, and we're struggling to make progress, then the kicking game becomes vital, and the half-backs need to get us out of there with the boot. Yet time and again, the Huddersfield back three were fielding the ball on the full, on their 40m line. That's just rubbish.

Re: Huddersfield match thread : Mon Feb 04, 2013 11:04 pm  

Roy Haggerty wrote:

Yet time and again, the Huddersfield back three were fielding the ball on the full, on their 40m line. That's just rubbish.

In the second half, yes. But not in the first.

Re: Huddersfield match thread : Mon Feb 04, 2013 11:06 pm  

Roy Haggerty wrote:

I agree that the lack of pack success limited the half-backs' options, but it's too simple to suggest they're blameless. In one key area, they were woeful, and it had nothing to do with the pack. Once again, our kicking game was terrible. Not only did it have no direction, but it had no length either. If the pack is being knocked back, and we're struggling to make progress, then the kicking game becomes vital, and the half-backs need to get us out of there with the boot. Yet time and again, the Huddersfield back three were fielding the ball on the full, on their 40m line. That's just rubbish.

Yes, because we were kicking the ball from inside our own 20m for the majority of the game. Besides, Wilkin seems to do the majority of our field kicking anyway, so most of the blame has to be placed on his shoulders.

The new rules don't help, and forces kickers to stand a lot deeper than they would normally to prevent the risk of a charge down.

Re: Huddersfield match thread : Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:05 pm  

PONNER wrote:

Hi guys, i've not come here to gloat but just to ask what the connection with saints and Fielden was as some of your fans bood him when he touched the ball. Is there some ill feelings towards him for a reason?

He used to play for Wigan, it's a good enough reason to boo someone