Re: Puletua sending Off : Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:15 pm  

No1 Saint wrote:

What do you expect from Ian Smith? The guy is a first class clown

Clearly you haven't been listening to him on Premier Sports. He's actually a very good video ref.

Re: Puletua sending Off : Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:16 pm  

bewareshadows wrote:

Funny thing is it was the video ref that sent off TP on Friday, yet today the same Video ref did not get a say.

It wasn't. It was Thaler who sent TP off. All Smith was asked to do was to confirm who was involved.

Re: Puletua sending Off : Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:31 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

It wasn't. It was Thaler who sent TP off. All Smith was asked to do was to confirm who was involved.

Other than looking at try or no try or how a ball has gone out of play and how to restart play is the video ref allowed to be involved in sendings off ? Even if it was to clear up who it was as far as i remember since the farce at the millenium weekend ( first one i think it was Leeds V Bradford ) the ref couldnt ask about anything other than trys and restarts.

Re: Puletua sending Off : Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:41 pm  

brook40 wrote:

Other than looking at try or no try or how a ball has gone out of play and how to restart play is the video ref allowed to be involved in sendings off ?

I was talking about that specific incident, as the poster I was replying to was. I wasn't talking about the game as a whole because the poster I was replying to wasn't talking about the game as a whole. Just that specific incident.

Smith didn't send TP off. Thaler did. It is clear on the mic that Thaler just wanted to know who had made the tackle, which means Thaler sent TP off on the say so of that old geezer who came in from the touchline, because had Thaler actually seen the incident he wouldn't have had to have asked Smith for TP's name.

Re: Puletua sending Off : Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:07 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

I was talking about that specific incident, as the poster I was replying to was. I wasn't talking about the game as a whole because the poster I was replying to wasn't talking about the game as a whole. Just that specific incident.

Smith didn't send TP off. Thaler did. It is clear on the mic that Thaler just wanted to know who had made the tackle, which means Thaler sent TP off on the say so of that old geezer who came in from the touchline, because had Thaler actually seen the incident he wouldn't have had to have asked Smith for TP's name.

Yes i know your talking about that specific incident.Thaler and the touch judge are together,Thaler asks was it Puletua,the touch judge doesnt reply,in fact he never said anything at any point,his lips dont move at all and there is no sound of his voice picked up on the refs mic.Ive watched this over and over and over and at no point does the touch judge say anything,yet Thaler is asking who it was.So if the touch judge isnt talking then he can only be talking to Smith. And as my point was can he actually do that ? And again as my point was after the facical MM game as far as i remember the Refs had a very limtied remit as to what they could ask the video ref about.

Re: Puletua sending Off : Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:14 pm  

I can understand why you're annoyed. It wouldn't be as bad if there was some consistency in matters. If Puletua's offence is considered worthy of a redcard then Mika should have been sent off tonight, too. Smashed Turner across the face and left him unable to continue.


Going back to earlier in the season, Sam Moa was sent off for an offence very similar to Puletua's (look it up on youtube if you didn't see it). Despite Moa getting a ban for this, the incident was then used in promo vids to advertise Super League on TV.

Re: Puletua sending Off : Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:24 pm  

Panda92 wrote:

I can understand why you're annoyed. It wouldn't be as bad if there was some consistency in matters. If Puletua's offence is considered worthy of a redcard then Mika should have been sent off tonight, too. Smashed Turner across the face and left him unable to continue.

Yep. And not even a penalty! Similar to when Sinfield knocked Makinson clean out with a flying arm. Penalty but no ban. So much for the punishments all being about hitting the head.

Re: Puletua sending Off : Tue Jul 24, 2012 7:46 am  

SaintsFan wrote:

It wasn't. It was Thaler who sent TP off. All Smith was asked to do was to confirm who was involved.

You are wrong. Watch it again. Thaler was listening to Smith a lot longer than the time it would take to say the word Puletua. He initially didn't even blow up for a penalty. It was only after he had had a talking to that he did anything. Smith clearly made the decision.

Re: Puletua sending Off : Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:08 am  

I haven't watched it back, but I got the impression it was the linesman that made the call.

Re: Puletua sending Off : Tue Jul 24, 2012 11:47 am  

Offside Monkey wrote:

I haven't watched it back, but I got the impression it was the linesman that made the call.

We don't have linesmen in rugby league.