Re: Rubbish : Sat Mar 10, 2012 10:51 am  

St pete wrote:

I said it last year and I've said it all this year that we are a very poorly coached team.

I can't help but think that Royce is stepping back and letting KP do the talking behind the scenes. Royce doesn't come across to me as a motivator, I've no doubt he can spray the players when needed but mentally he seems to struggle to get players up for the game.

I hope I'm wrong but...

Re: Rubbish : Sat Mar 10, 2012 10:55 am  

Once again we only score tries on the back of penalties to put us near the opposition line.How many line breaks did we achieve? Same story every week.

Re: Rubbish : Sat Mar 10, 2012 11:19 am  

Ande wrote:

I can't help but think that Royce is stepping back and letting KP do the talking behind the scenes. Royce doesn't come across to me as a motivator, I've no doubt he can spray the players when needed but mentally he seems to struggle to get players up for the game.

I hope I'm wrong but...

KP does do most of the talking while Royce takes back seat. Royce does have the last word but most of the talking is done by KP.

Re: Rubbish : Sat Mar 10, 2012 11:20 am  

How about this from the Dragons! Something like this is what seemingly what we need. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esY6SGrz ... e=youtu.be

How about this from the Dragons! Something like this is what seemingly what we need. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esY6SGrz ... e=youtu.be

Re: Rubbish : Sat Mar 10, 2012 12:16 pm  

I'm really amazed at some of you doom and gloom saints fans, don't be so fickle. Yep your on a bad run and losing last night to us has magnified some areas for improvement, but its not the end of the world.
it's in the Saints genes that you will come good, you may be going through a transitional phase but talk of not being top 8 !!! Give me a break. You'll be there or there or there abouts when all the points are tallied up.
World class replacement props and scrum halves do not grow on trees and you'll just have to be patient and get it right slowly, as you always have done, before you are back at the top of the tree. No one has a devine right, not even St Helens. but your side needs real support to get you through this seasonal blip, and your young starlets need it too before you break them. Just get real, stay with it , look longer term and you'll be marching in again before you know it, just maybe not this year. Patience gentlemen. You've only had 20 years of on and off success it could be worse, a lot lot worse.

Re: Rubbish : Sat Mar 10, 2012 2:40 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

My memory is pretty good.

Give over, grandad. When Flanagan left Wigan to go to Wests you were hopping about in your zimmer telling everyone what a loss it was to the club and how well he was playing. Indeed, it was you who brought to our attention his first grade NRL game (I remember because I followed the link). Now, you might want to deny any or all of this but the fact remains that you said it. Stop being so tedious you fool.

How's yours?

And what?

Re: Rubbish : Sat Mar 10, 2012 2:58 pm  

We start slow and weve lost a couple of games by the odd point that we could easily have pinched in previous years.

Without robes and without us suddenly clicking highly likely we will get beaten up badly in the next few games.

Our recruitment and retention of players for the last few years has been mediocre.

Im not sure how much better a different coach could do with squad on current form.

We do have some great talent and we will find form as we try to peak later in the year.

At the top of our game were still a match for the Wigan Leeds and Wire in one off.

Re: Rubbish : Sat Mar 10, 2012 5:17 pm  

We've lost a game by 2 points, another by 1 point both against gf pretenders and drawn a game. Had we took the 6 points from those we would sit top of the league. Granted we're not playing platinum rugby but who in the competition is?

Its form, its sport.

Re: Rubbish : Sat Mar 10, 2012 9:39 pm  

Mugwump wrote:

Give over, grandad. When Flanagan left Wigan to go to Wests you were hopping about in your zimmer telling everyone what a loss it was to the club and how well he was playing. Indeed, it was you who brought to our attention his first grade NRL game (I remember because I followed the link). Now, you might want to deny any or all of this but the fact remains that you said it. Stop being so tedious you fool.

And what?

So come on mouth. Where is my post re Flanagan?

However here is a classic from 2009.

Mugwump wrote:

Looking at Wigan's roster I'd say that - provided its developed properly (and there's little evidence that it will be at the moment) Wigan are a minimum of five years away from being serious trophy contenders.

Wayne Bennett himself couldn't shave down that figure.

Re: Rubbish : Sat Mar 10, 2012 10:10 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

So come on mouth. Where is my post re Flanagan?

However here is a classic from 2009.