Re: Gary Wheeler/17 for Sunday? : Fri Sep 16, 2011 2:47 pm  

FearTheVee wrote:

Everyone at the club knows how talented he is. If fit he'd be in the team every single week.

I agree.

Re: Gary Wheeler/17 for Sunday? : Fri Sep 16, 2011 2:59 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

Call away. Are you his Mum?

No it's fine. I've better things to do with my time than court controversy on an internet forum.

Saddened! wrote:

Wheeler should be released. The people will be with me on that.

You may have a small minority of like minded attention seekers agree with you but the majority of people will want Wheeler to stay.

Re: Gary Wheeler/17 for Sunday? : Fri Sep 16, 2011 3:05 pm  

Sthelens RLFC wrote:

You may have a vast majority of like minded thinkers agree with you but the majority of people will want Wheeler to man up and play.

Fixed it for you.

Re: Gary Wheeler/17 for Sunday? : Fri Sep 16, 2011 3:14 pm  

Saddened! wrote: Where is the evidence to back up your claims? He didn't get the 3 or 4 squad number did he? No chance of him getting into the team ahead of Meli or Shenton now, none at all. From pre-season: http://www.saintsrlfc.com/news/page/429 "And, Gary Wheeler proved he could be the man to fill the centre role this season." Royce Simmons wrote: Everyone has been asking about Gary Wheeler and what his position is and I think we have found it in the centres. He did a couple of good things there and I felt with the discovery of his position as well as Kyle and Jonny, there were some bright things tonight. Don't blame you for missing it, it was after a big defeat and you were probably busy knee-jerking about how we were going to finish behind Leeds/Hudds/Hull/Catalans etc this year and wanting to swap our backs for Wakefield's because we'd lost a friendly.

Saddened! wrote: Where is the evidence to back up your claims? He didn't get the 3 or 4 squad number did he? No chance of him getting into the team ahead of Meli or Shenton now, none at all. From pre-season: http://www.saintsrlfc.com/news/page/429 "And, Gary Wheeler proved he could be the man to fill the centre role this season." Royce Simmons wrote: Everyone has been asking about Gary Wheeler and what his position is and I think we have found it in the centres. He did a couple of good things there and I felt with the discovery of his position as well as Kyle and Jonny, there were some bright things tonight. Don't blame you for missing it, it was after a big defeat and you were probably busy knee-jerking about how we were going to finish behind Leeds/Hudds/Hull/Catalans etc this year and wanting to swap our backs for Wakefield's because we'd lost a friendly.

Re: Gary Wheeler/17 for Sunday? : Fri Sep 16, 2011 3:44 pm  

FearTheVee wrote: From pre-season: http://www.saintsrlfc.com/news/page/429 "And, Gary Wheeler proved he could be the man to fill the centre role this season." Don't blame you for missing it, it was after a big defeat and you were probably busy knee-jerking about how we were going to finish behind Leeds/Hudds/Hull/Catalans etc this year and wanting to swap our backs for Wakefield's because we'd lost a friendly. Without Saddened, the rest of us fans would seam quite depressed, with him even the most depressive Saints fan seams completely over optimistic. He brings balance to the force, obviously on the dark side.

FearTheVee wrote: From pre-season: http://www.saintsrlfc.com/news/page/429 "And, Gary Wheeler proved he could be the man to fill the centre role this season." Don't blame you for missing it, it was after a big defeat and you were probably busy knee-jerking about how we were going to finish behind Leeds/Hudds/Hull/Catalans etc this year and wanting to swap our backs for Wakefield's because we'd lost a friendly. Without Saddened, the rest of us fans would seam quite depressed, with him even the most depressive Saints fan seams completely over optimistic. He brings balance to the force, obviously on the dark side.

Re: Gary Wheeler/17 for Sunday? : Fri Sep 16, 2011 4:22 pm  

There is some talent in Wheeler but his injury record means we can't take up a salary with someone who never play

Re: Gary Wheeler/17 for Sunday? : Fri Sep 16, 2011 4:34 pm  

He is contracted to 2012 anyway. So getting rid now would cost us more.

Also we can't buy in any more overseas so unless someone else can outplay him in the academy whats the point in getting rid of talent.

Re: Gary Wheeler/17 for Sunday? : Fri Sep 16, 2011 5:16 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

Why? Because he looked good in ONE game at Huddersfield and HALF a game at Wigan?

He was fabulous against the Quins and I don't mean because the Quins are dire. I mean because he showed great hands and feet and pace and step ... if he is indeed injured (rather than he is being rested for later but that can't be admitted) then that is a real shame. He didn't look remotely injured after the Quins match. Far from it. He was most people's MoM on Saturday.

Re: Gary Wheeler/17 for Sunday? : Fri Sep 16, 2011 5:43 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

Why is it rubbish? Wheeler isn't contributing enough to be worthy of a contract. He has played what 6 times this year? My bet with Blobby (?) that he wouldn't do 12 games is as safe as houses.

It was me yes, and yes you've been proven right this season. There's no point releasing him until his contract expires which is the end of next year. He has a year to prove he can string a run of games together otherwise there is no way he can be offered a contract, it's simply not worth our investment. It reminds me of Nigel Wright, who was a great talent at Wigan but could never string games together.

The talent is most definitely there, but it's so frustrating with him as he NEVER strings more than 4 or 5 games together, sometimes it's 1 or 2 games and then he's out for 3 months!

As for the squad, big disappointment to have no Kyle, Wheeler and Pryce - 3 creative players who we need in the big games. It'll be a tough ask going there and getting a win IMO.

Re: Gary Wheeler/17 for Sunday? : Fri Sep 16, 2011 5:54 pm  

Dux wrote:

There was nothing wrong with Hoffman's shot on Wheeler if you go by old school rules. He was totally committed to the shot. However, I'm sure I remember it being said that you now have to go for the ball when chasing down a kicker rather than aiming for the man. So maybe it was technically a foul, but it wasn't dirty play IMO.

Not in my opinion. it was late and hoffman knew exactly what he was doing in that there was a good chance of injury.
It changed the game entirely.

Still can't blame hoff for wagon wheels latest quad injury.