Re: Quins Match Thread : Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:04 pm  

Saint Simon wrote:

awaits st pete ......

I will say this once and only once!

I think wilkin has looked better this year and more like the old wilkin.

Let's move on now!

Re: Quins Match Thread : Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:31 pm  

St pete wrote:

I will say this once and only once!

I think wilkin has looked better this year and more like the old wilkin.

Let's move on now!

sorry mate couldnt help myself

Re: Quins Match Thread : Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:39 pm  

Saint Simon wrote:

sorry mate couldnt help myself

People have the wrong end of the stick about what I think of wilkin.

I'll put the record straight - I think he's a very very talented player who IMO could/should have been a saints great. He's got all the the skills to be top class player.

What really frustrates me is, he don't do it anymore. For what reason I don't know but he's wasting his best days IMO. It's a shame he can't relive the form of 2006 or get anywhere near that.

In fact wilkin was my fave player at one time.

Re: Quins Match Thread : Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:49 pm  

The major difference being that Wilkin had far better players around him in 2006.

Re: Quins Match Thread : Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:50 pm  

St pete wrote:

What really frustrates me is, he don't do it anymore. For what reason I don't know but he's wasting his best days IMO. It's a shame he can't relive the form of 2006 or get anywhere near that.

In fact wilkin was my fave player at one time.

It was much easier to be Jon Wilkin in 2006 with the ridiculous pack we had the, than to be Jon Wilkin since.

Can I just point out one other minor flaw in your crusade? In 2010, compared to 2006, Jon Wilkin:

- Scored more tries per game
- Had more assists per game
- Made more metres per game
- Carried the ball more per game
- Made more tackles per game
- Missed fewer tackles
- Made more offloads per game
- Bust more tackles per game
- Made more clean breaks per game

Just a minor point.

Re: Quins Match Thread : Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:51 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

The major difference being that Wilkin had far better players around him in 2006.

Ahh, the "(insert saints player name here) is only good because of the players around him" line, it been a while

Re: Quins Match Thread : Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:53 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

The major difference being that Wilkin had far better players around him in 2006.

I can see Joel Tomkins going the same way mate

Re: Quins Match Thread : Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:55 pm  

Christ! I even get slated when I praise wilkin.

Think il stick to just slagging him off then.

Re: Quins Match Thread : Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:59 pm  

Saint Simon wrote:

Ahh, the "(insert saints player name here) is only good because of the players around him" line, it been a while

I agree, DA only got coach of the year coz he had good players, scully (twice), roby, wello only got man of steel because they had great players around them and so on ........

Re: Quins Match Thread : Tue Mar 15, 2011 1:22 pm  

bewareshadows wrote:

I can't believe Gaskell is getting hammered by some fans already. He is a prospect, but just that at the moment, with his senior partner being ineffectual for what ever reason, it seams some fans are expecting 30year old sean Long performances from a player who probably expected anothe year of maybe 1 or 2, 10 min appearances.

I think the people who are hammering Gaskell are those who are either clueless about how rugby league is played or they don't care! Gaskell is showing a lot of courage, commitment, maturity and skill. He is raw and his mistakes are bound to be significant given the unfortunate position he has been placed in by partnering Kyle Eastmond. However, I sincerely hope he is receiving encouragement and guidance not just from the coach but also from senior players so that his confidence is not jeopardised. I also hope that Simmons continues to keep him playing in the first team as during one of these matches we could see him click and really kick on, much like Foster did during last season.

The Foster experiement has failed and it's time for Simmons to move on and return to 3 forwards and a replacement hooker on the bench.

By doing this though you are asking for a wholesale change around in the team should one of the backs get injured. We had enough of that last season. The players have openly said in the local press that they want to play in one position. We have already seen how well Wilkin has responded to that. Such a shame he is injured as he was crucial to us, especially in the absence of Pryce.