Re: Stadium Site pictures : Sat Jul 03, 2010 10:46 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

Absolutely. But it isn't the development itself.

You're really splitting hairs, aren't you?

Re: Stadium Site pictures : Sat Jul 03, 2010 10:52 pm  

Ski wrote:

You're really splitting hairs, aren't you?

No. There are two developments on that site: Tesco, and us. I presume they will both be using the roundabout? Therefore, in order for either or both developments to begin, the roundabout and entrance roads need to be completed, and that was the task of the council. That isn't a sign that our development is about to begin. It could simply be that the council are doing their part and that either Tesco is about to start work on their development or it could all go quiet again.

Not splitting hairs at all. Just stating the obvious really.

Re: Stadium Site pictures : Sun Jul 04, 2010 11:24 am  

okay sunday update, and ebfore all the moaners start i Know nothing much has changed but it will OK?

Re: Stadium Site pictures : Sun Jul 04, 2010 11:26 am  

Saintsfan you are getting very boring now, the chairman stated that the finances ARE in place a contractor WILL be announced and the work WILL begin soon, what part of that dont you understand?

Re: Stadium Site pictures : Sun Jul 04, 2010 11:53 am  

Gruntfuttock wrote:

Saintsfan you are getting very boring now, the chairman stated that the finances ARE in place a contractor WILL be announced and the work WILL begin soon, what part of that dont you understand?

I understand what he said. I speak English, as he does. The only difference in that speech as opposed to others is that he stated a contractor has been appointed. We've had 'soon' before but it hasn't turned out to be 'soon'. And contractors were supposed to have been appointed by November last year, according to announcements last year.

You're getting boring too. You are repeating the same mantra without actually reading what I'm writing. My issue isn't with McManus. It's with the unreliability of Saints' announcements.

To finish: when it happens, my faith in Saints' announcements will be restored. Until then, I remain skeptical, even if it had been God Himself who had said those words.

Re: Stadium Site pictures : Sun Jul 04, 2010 11:58 am  

Gruntfuttock wrote:

Saintsfan you are getting very boring now, the chairman stated that the finances ARE in place a contractor WILL be announced and the work WILL begin soon, what part of that dont you understand?

She doesn't have faith in his announcements

Re: Stadium Site pictures : Sun Jul 04, 2010 12:06 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

I understand what he said. I speak English, as he does. The only difference in that speech as opposed to others is that he stated a contractor has been appointed. We've had 'soon' before but it hasn't turned out to be 'soon'. And contractors were supposed to have been appointed by November last year, according to announcements last year.

You're getting boring too. You are repeating the same mantra without actually reading what I'm writing. My issue isn't with McManus. It's with the unreliability of Saints' announcements.

To finish: when it happens, my faith in Saints' announcements will be restored. Until then, I remain skeptical, even if it had been God Himself who had said those words.

To be fair you seem to be doing that too!! We all understand you don't believe the club at the moment.

One thing i do agree on is that its the council doing the infrastructure works etc.. But unless they believe that there are no problems with the project would they spend the money and time doing it? No of course they wouldn't, and Tesco can't open without providing funding to complete the stadium should any holes in the finances appear in between.

Re: Stadium Site pictures : Sun Jul 04, 2010 1:05 pm  

The Chair Maker wrote:

Show me a building contract that doesnt involve deciding on what the materials used will be.

The builders options to "value engineer" as you put it can be minimised by the strict use of contractual terms.

Please do not judge Saints by the standards that Warrington set in the construction of the Halliwell Jones. That really was a bargain basement build.

Having worked in construction for nearly twenty years, all the experienced gained in that time does not enable me to make any sense of those comments.

I would go further by saying you haven't got a bloody clue what you are on about. As of this time, with reducing borrowing and general fiscal tightening, value engineering is one of the key drivers to getting any scheme on site. The only 'contractual term' which prohibits change is the planning application drawings, which casts in stone the size, shape and general external aesthetics of a scheme. Everything thereafter is fair game.

Re: Stadium Site pictures : Sun Jul 04, 2010 6:39 pm  

Gruntfuttock wrote:

okay sunday update, and ebfore all the moaners start i Know nothing much has changed but it will OK?

As the representative of this construction GF, am thinking the lack of action is all your fault! Watched kettles and all that, maybe no photos and everything will spring into life???? And is ebfore a bit like ebygum? Tis a long time since I lived oop north???

Re: Stadium Site pictures : Sun Jul 04, 2010 8:30 pm  

Chris Saint wrote:

To be fair you seem to be doing that too!! We all understand you don't believe the club at the moment.

Good! So then perhaps people will stop coming back at me with the same statements then! And then I won't respond in the same way! But I'm not going to anyway because I can't be bothered.

One thing i do agree on is that its the council doing the infrastructure works etc.. But unless they believe that there are no problems with the project would they spend the money and time doing it? No of course they wouldn't, and Tesco can't open without providing funding to complete the stadium should any holes in the finances appear in between.

They have to do it for Tesco as well as Saints. I don't know where the Tesco development is up to, do you? But if it's all ready to go then they will need the infrastructure works completed to enable them to get on to the site, won't they?

Tesco aren't providing any funding towards the stadium. Only Saints are funding the stadium.