Re: walsh injury : Sat Jul 26, 2014 10:38 am  

McDonnell at 1

Wheeler at 6

Not a bad idea, no 7 in the 19s??

Re: walsh injury : Sat Jul 26, 2014 12:19 pm  

Judder Man wrote:

Simmons took a gamble which worked for a couple of games the rest is history.

Eh? We got to the Grand Final with young halves.

Re: walsh injury : Sat Jul 26, 2014 12:20 pm  

St pete wrote:

I think he's putting wello there as he's more of a leader and looked up to by the players and will talk and try and direct. Turner is a little to laid back IMO and won't try and get to grips with the game.

At least we got a week off to prepare.

Turner impressed me when he took over halfback duties last night. He did more in his stint than Wheeler did in the whole match.

Re: walsh injury : Sat Jul 26, 2014 12:23 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

Turner impressed me when he took over halfback duties last night. He did more in his stint than Wheeler did in the whole match.

Interesting. In all the hoopla I haven't heard any assessments in how wheeler went - the stats don't show him doing much (2 errors too)

McDonnell/ Wellens
Makinson Percival Jones Swift
Turner wheeler/Wilkin

?

Re: walsh injury : Sat Jul 26, 2014 12:24 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

Turner impressed me when he took over halfback duties last night. He did more in his stint than Wheeler did in the whole match.

He did but let's be honest, Widnes was shocking in defense. I can't see Leeds, Warrington, Wigan etc letting him run across like he was last night but I agree he did do ok there.

Re: walsh injury : Sat Jul 26, 2014 12:31 pm  

Magic Superbeetle wrote:

Interesting. In all the hoopla I haven't heard any assessments in how wheeler went - the stats don't show him doing much (2 errors too)

He just looked anonymous. Didn't miss any tackles though, which is an advantage. Might he be better in the centre spot?

McDonnell/ Wellens
Makinson Percival Jones Swift
Turner wheeler/Wilkin

I'd like to see what McDonnell can bring bearing in mind we are very short on attacking threats now. Wello had a poor game last night but given we can't loan anyone now and clearly we aren't going to be blooding any young halves this season, it looks like Wello will take one halfback berth until one of Hohaia or Wilkin return (Wilkin may well be out for the season apparently).

Turner did well last night. He can kick goals so maybe he has something to offer on the field too (I know the two aren't the same but hey, desperate times!). Wheeler's attempts at kicking last night were awful. To get to 26 as a halfback and not be able to kick is really poor IMO. But anyway, I'd give Turner a go as he really took the game by the scruff of the neck I thought.

If Wello can marshal some kind of attack, in tandem with Robes, and Turner take more of a running role then maybe that might be a start? Who knows? I sure don't! All I know is what I saw last night and I thought Turner offered more than Wheeler.

Re: walsh injury : Sat Jul 26, 2014 1:35 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

He just looked anonymous. Didn't miss any tackles though, which is an advantage. Might he be better in the centre spot?

I'd like to see what McDonnell can bring bearing in mind we are very short on attacking threats now. Wello had a poor game last night but given we can't loan anyone now and clearly we aren't going to be blooding any young halves this season, it looks like Wello will take one halfback berth until one of Hohaia or Wilkin return (Wilkin may well be out for the season apparently).

Turner did well last night. He can kick goals so maybe he has something to offer on the field too (I know the two aren't the same but hey, desperate times!). Wheeler's attempts at kicking last night were awful. To get to 26 as a halfback and not be able to kick is really poor IMO. But anyway, I'd give Turner a go as he really took the game by the scruff of the neck I thought.

If Wello can marshal some kind of attack, in tandem with Robes, and Turner take more of a running role then maybe that might be a start? Who knows? I sure don't! All I know is what I saw last night and I thought Turner offered more than Wheeler.

Iirc Turner did a bit of kicking for us whilst in this position last year - dropouts in particular I think. He got some great length on them too, I'm surprised it hasn't been used since! Until Wilkin or Hohaia is back, we are really struggling for kickers.

I'd be tempted to bring McDonnell in next week to allow Wellens to have a proper break with the week off the week after, and I'd keep Turner in the centres for now, he has a great combo with Makinson, and we need as many threats as possible out wide who can make something out of nothing because when the ball gets to them, it won't have committed defenders.

What that leaves though, is though is the only option of throwing a kid in and Wheeler ...

Re: walsh injury : Sat Jul 26, 2014 2:30 pm  

Rest Wilkin for Hull FC???

Eh?

Rest him on the CC weekend, or against Wakey, but not Hull FC

Re: walsh injury : Sat Jul 26, 2014 2:32 pm  

bewareshadows wrote:

Rest Wilkin for Hull FC???

Eh?

Rest him on the CC weekend, or against Wakey, but not Hull FC

Wilkin is out injured. It is quite likely he won't be back during the regular season.

Re: walsh injury : Sat Jul 26, 2014 3:33 pm  

I meant Wellens

opps