Re: When is a red card not a red card? : Tue Jul 23, 2013 6:24 pm  

The picture should be sent to the RFL and ask them to explain their decision. It seems only Saints players are used as testing when these new rules are brought in.

Re: When is a red card not a red card? : Tue Jul 23, 2013 7:50 pm  

Horatio Yed wrote:

Wow??!!
looks like a certain team have a cup tie at the weekend.

Yep, we called in all our favours for this one. After all, without Taylor we would definitely lose against the London Broncos.

Re: When is a red card not a red card? : Tue Jul 23, 2013 7:54 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

Point of the shoulder on skull. Could easily have killed him there.

I think you should bypass the RFL and go straight to the police. It was attempted murder.

Re: When is a red card not a red card? : Tue Jul 23, 2013 9:55 pm  

That picture is a bad angle to make such a decision, you can't see any contact with the head because his head is in the way. O'Brien is on the way down there. I think people re seeing what they want to see with that.

I was screaming for blood at the game, but I've not seen the replay so will reserve judgement, I don't think that the RFL wouldn't have banned him if there was clear contact with the head though, he isn't an important enough player.

Re: When is a red card not a red card? : Tue Jul 23, 2013 9:57 pm  

TheElectricGlidingWarrior wrote:

I think you should bypass the RFL and go straight to the police. It was attempted murder.

I was only joking. But at the end of the day it was a very dangerous tackle. You don't want big forwards putting shoulders into the back/head of players from behind and late. He should have got the same ban the other players who have been banned this season for shoulder charges got.

Re: When is a red card not a red card? : Wed Jul 24, 2013 6:19 am  

I don't think it was as bad as that still makes it out to be and whilst the individual desiceion by the panel doesn't concern me, it is odd when you consider Ade Gardner's ban and similar events.

O'Brien was crushed by a similar tackle from Nick Scruton when on loan at Cas. Did Scruton get any punishment?

Re: When is a red card not a red card? : Wed Jul 24, 2013 7:17 am  

Lack of consistency.

It's not the worst, but it was shoulder to the head. 1 game should have resulted. Mind you it's not unusual for Wiganers to take out the halfback.

Newton - Long
Hoffman - Wheeler
Taylor - O'Brien

You could argue they are not as bad as they used to be, but the habit remains.

Re: When is a red card not a red card? : Wed Jul 24, 2013 7:19 am  

Saddened! wrote:

I was only joking. But at the end of the day it was a very dangerous tackle. You don't want big forwards putting shoulders into the back/head of players from behind and late. He should have got the same ban the other players who have been banned this season for shoulder charges got.

It was a bad one, but had O'brien not collided with his own player he could well have remained on the field - any speculation on the extent of the effects of the shoulder alone is just that, speculation.

The flop onto the unprotected back of "small man" Logan Tomkins as he was regaining his feet to play the ball could have easily resulted in whiplash too and I don't see anyone crying about that. Of course, it was St Paul who did that and he is beyond reproach here.

Re: When is a red card not a red card? : Wed Jul 24, 2013 7:48 am  

TheElectricGlidingWarrior wrote:

Of course, it was St Paul who did that and he is beyond reproach here.

You obviously don't come on here very often.

Re: When is a red card not a red card? : Wed Jul 24, 2013 8:02 am  

TheElectricGlidingWarrior wrote:

The flop onto the unprotected back of "small man" Logan Tomkins as he was regaining his feet to play the ball could have easily resulted in whiplash too and I don't see anyone crying about that. Of course, it was St Paul who did that and he is beyond reproach here.

the tackle wasnt completed. Had Tomkins played the ball, he would have been penalised anyway for playing the ball before he was tackled.