Re: Predictions - Saints v Wigan : Sun Jul 21, 2013 7:14 pm  

Without Roby you will find it very difficult.

That said I think you will raise your game in the first 20 of each half. We will rest Lockers and Sam and taking all this into account the scores will be a lost closer than many think

On paper a Wigan win, but by fewer than most believe and a Stains win is certainly not beyond the realms of possibility.

Re: Predictions - Saints v Wigan : Sun Jul 21, 2013 7:15 pm  

The Yellow Giraffe wrote:

You talk so much nonsense. There are 26 blokes on a rugby field. Hookers don't play head to head or mark each other in any way.

Watch the game again and see what happened. Why do you think Wigan started McIlorum ahead of Riddell?
You've already took a battering on the Wigan site you don't really want another do you?

Back on topic, I think it'll be a close game tomorrow.

Re: Predictions - Saints v Wigan : Sun Jul 21, 2013 7:18 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

Watch the game again and see what happened. Why do you think Wigan started McIlorum ahead of Riddell?
You've already took a battering on the Wigan site you don't really want another do you?

Back on topic, I think it'll be a close game tomorrow.

By taken a battering do you mean pointing out Wigan's lack of silverware and everyone crying about it? Nice one.

So you're honestly saying that he was picked purely to man mark Cunningham?

Re: Predictions - Saints v Wigan : Sun Jul 21, 2013 7:19 pm  

The Yellow Giraffe wrote:

You talk so much nonsense. There are 26 blokes on a rugby field. Hookers don't play head to head or mark each other in any way.

Correct.

Hookers don't go head to head in the game.

Re: Predictions - Saints v Wigan : Sun Jul 21, 2013 8:25 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

Watch the game again and see what happened. Why do you think Wigan started McIlorum ahead of Riddell?
You've already took a battering on the Wigan site you don't really want another do you?

Back on topic, I think it'll be a close game tomorrow.

A battering ? clueless old tool. He took abuse from a bunch of inbreds for pointing out the truth.

On topic you goons will walk it tomorrow , wont stop you peddling your pathetic excuses though.

Re: Predictions - Saints v Wigan : Sun Jul 21, 2013 8:26 pm  

The Yellow Giraffe wrote:

By taken a battering do you mean pointing out Wigan's lack of silverware and everyone crying about it? Nice one.

So you're honestly saying that he was picked purely to man mark Cunningham?

He really is that stupid.

Re: Predictions - Saints v Wigan : Mon Jul 22, 2013 7:16 am  

I don't know why Rogues is taking so much stick for pointing out a couple of 'facts'. In the GF of 2010 McIlorum was superb and got the better of his opposite number, the great Keiron Cunningham. It was the night the lad came of age and he hasn't looked back.

His second point that McIlorum has got the better of Roby more often then not in the last 3 years is also true. It's not all down to McIlorum obviously, he's been playing in a better side but its still true.

Like I said earlier in the thread MM is a huge part of this Wigan side and is a major reason why your forwards legs have gone to jelly at the prospect of facing Wigan these past couple of seasons. If he's out tonight along with Tomkins and O'Loughlin Saints will win the game IMO.

Re: Predictions - Saints v Wigan : Mon Jul 22, 2013 7:24 am  

NickyKiss wrote:

I don't know why Rogues is taking so much stick for pointing out a couple of 'facts'. In the GF of 2010 McIlorum was superb and got the better of his opposite number, the great Keiron Cunningham. It was the night the lad came of age and he hasn't looked back.

His second point that McIlorum has got the better of Roby more often then not in the last 3 years is also true. It's not all down to McIlorum obviously, he's been playing in a better side but its still true.

Like I said earlier in the thread MM is a huge part of this Wigan side and is a major reason why your forwards legs have gone to jelly at the prospect of facing Wigan these past couple of seasons. If he's out tonight along with Tomkins and O'Loughlin Saints will win the game IMO.

Nobody is doubting that mm is decent player (I like his rough style) but how can a hooker take another hooker out the game ? It's not like he can shadow someone who plays behind the play the ball is it?

If you mean he played better than him on the night, then I'd agree but that's not really taking KC out the game or getting the better of him is it? It means that mm just played better on the day.

If your hinting that MM is better than both KC and Roby, then your totally deluded. He's not in the same league as KC and Roby and its embarrassing to even mention him in the same breath as them.

Re: Predictions - Saints v Wigan : Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:45 am  

St pete wrote:

Nobody is doubting that mm is decent player (I like his rough style) but how can a hooker take another hooker out the game ? It's not like he can shadow someone who plays behind the play the ball is it?

If you mean he played better than him on the night, then I'd agree but that's not really taking KC out the game or getting the better of him is it? It means that mm just played better on the day.

If your hinting that MM is better than both KC and Roby, then your totally deluded. He's not in the same league as KC and Roby and its embarrassing to even mention him in the same breath as them.

I agree one hooker can't take another out of a game (legally anyway) and yes I do just mean in terms of him outplaying him in a one off situation. He's also outplayed Roby more often then not but that is due to the attention Wigan, as a team, pay Roby because they know how good he is.

He's far better then decent though McIlorum. He's not as good as KC (who is/was for a long time) and if swap him for Roby but that's not a slight on the guy. I think his style of play marks him out as a very important player for Wigan and I'd imagine he's horrible to play against. It's another debate this one and I don't expect it would get much backing round these parts but I'd actually start MM for England with Roby on the bench. Is that because I think he's better? No but I Di think he's better suited to the role of starting hooker in test match rugby. I'd only give him 25-30 mins a game to rough teams up before setting a fresh Roby loose but I'd certainly start him.

Re: Predictions - Saints v Wigan : Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:56 am  

I'd never pick him ahead of KC or Roby, but McIlorum is a good example of what our side currently lacks. We could do with someone in our pack who has that level of aggression and intensity.