Re: Put up or stay silent - Sam Hopkins? : Wed Jun 19, 2013 7:40 pm  

St pete wrote:

Boots n all have just echoed what I said about Shaun Wane and wigans confidence in youth.

But didn't you refer to him as the ape with no coaching intelligence?

Re: Put up or stay silent - Sam Hopkins? : Wed Jun 19, 2013 8:00 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

But didn't you refer to him as the ape with no coaching intelligence?

No just a Ape who's thick but I admit he's done a terrific job in the weekly rounds.

Re: Put up or stay silent - Sam Hopkins? : Wed Jun 19, 2013 8:38 pm  

terrykelly wrote:

Never seem him play have you ? (Obviously)

I wouldn't comment if I hadn't.

Re: Put up or stay silent - Sam Hopkins? : Thu Jun 20, 2013 12:06 pm  

St pete wrote:

He told me Hopkins hadn't signed but saints was confident he would.

Lets be Honest though, if it was a choice between Wigan saints and Warrington then I'd certainly pick Wigan over saints. Wigan are the best team in super league, their coach backs all his young players and certainly isn't afraid to throw them (he gets a kick out of playing young lads) and they will pay better than us. Simple decision IMO

Just goes to show that players aren't always the best sources!

Re: Put up or stay silent - Sam Hopkins? : Thu Jun 20, 2013 12:14 pm  

MattyB wrote:

Just goes to show that players aren't always the best sources!

Onething that strikes me about players "in the know" in these situations is that Hopkins is not going to want to be badgered by everyone who thinks he should go to their club, so he probably make a few non-committal comments like "yeah, Saints are a great club, I'd be interested if they made me an offer." to get people of his back. Next thing is that he's definatley coming.

If he'd said something to the press, or indeed a member of the club that was negotiating his signing, then that's another matter, but I'm afraid players must be victim to the rumour mill just as we are.

Re: Put up or stay silent - Sam Hopkins? : Thu Jun 20, 2013 4:47 pm  

Lets get things in perspective. Saints Wigan Warrington and soon Widnes will all be throwing their hats at a handful of players at local Championship clubs. You win some you lose some, Alex looks a winner Chris Hill looks a winner and I hope Hopkins turns out the same.

Re: Put up or stay silent - Sam Hopkins? : Thu Jun 20, 2013 5:42 pm  

Wigans conditioning team seems to be lightyears ahead of ours, maybe that is a big reason for him moving?

Re: Put up or stay silent - Sam Hopkins? : Thu Jun 20, 2013 6:20 pm  

Ande wrote:

Wigans conditioning team seems to be lightyears ahead of ours, maybe that is a big reason for him moving?

Been saying this a few times this season. One of the main factors of our poor season is most of the team are out of condition, most of the time we look lethargic and can,t switch on for 80 mins. Could this be the reason we are picking up injuries through being so unfit in the first place.
The current top 4 teams play with lots of energy we can only do that for 10 mins and then the battery needs charging.

Re: Put up or stay silent - Sam Hopkins? : Thu Jun 20, 2013 8:18 pm  

Judder Man wrote:

Been saying this a few times this season. One of the main factors of our poor season is most of the team are out of condition, most of the time we look lethargic and can,t switch on for 80 mins. Could this be the reason we are picking up injuries through being so unfit in the first place.
The current top 4 teams play with lots of energy we can only do that for 10 mins and then the battery needs charging.

I think that's got more to do with our appalling game management than our fitness. We're getting tired because we're always either defending or trying to clear our line.

Re: Put up or stay silent - Sam Hopkins? : Thu Jun 20, 2013 8:39 pm  

Dux wrote:

I think that's got more to do with our appalling game management than our fitness. We're getting tired because we're always either defending or trying to clear our line.

We also don't have a player that can lift us, someone like graham that does that big run or makes the big hit. Them sort of things lift other players and gives teams energy.