Re: Gaz O'Brien : Thu May 30, 2013 10:57 am  

Saddened! wrote:

Give over, it's a sad situation when Wire's fourth choice halfback is better than anything we have. This is a recognition of massive failings in the recruitment, squad building and youth development at the club.

Our youth development has been made look better than it is by the likes of Graham and Roby. We seem unable to successfully promote young players consistently and we are years behind Leeds, Wigan and now apparently Wire. I think it has a lot to do with who we have sorting our youth compared to them.

Re: Gaz O'Brien : Thu May 30, 2013 11:20 am  

TheVee wrote:

Our youth development has been made look better than it is by the likes of Graham and Roby. We seem unable to successfully promote young players consistently and we are years behind Leeds, Wigan and now apparently Wire. I think it has a lot to do with who we have sorting our youth compared to them.

So it seems that quite a few of you are now agreeing with what I have been saying for the last four years?

Just look at the England U18 academy team that beat France last weekend.

Re: Gaz O'Brien : Thu May 30, 2013 11:30 am  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

So it seems that quite a few of you are now agreeing with what I have been saying for the last four years?

Just look at the England U18 academy team that beat France last weekend.

I've never tried to make out like our youth set up is superior. The first team shows it without going into the academy teams

Re: Gaz O'Brien : Thu May 30, 2013 11:31 am  

wiretilidie08 wrote:

He is also a very good goal kicker and from what I've watched of you this season, that looks like something you desperately need.

We were told at the time they joined the first team that Lomax, Makinson and Percival were also very good goal kickers! What is 'very good'? Personally, I think our present crop are above Longy in ability but below Foster/Gaskell. In other words, pretty decent but inconsistent.

Re: Gaz O'Brien : Thu May 30, 2013 11:42 am  

SaintsFan wrote:

We were told at the time they joined the first team that Lomax, Makinson and Percival were also very good goal kickers! What is 'very good'? Personally, I think our present crop are above Longy in ability but below Foster/Gaskell. In other words, pretty decent but inconsistent.

I'm with a lot of your comments on this, but I think you are flogging a dead horse here.

Let's see how he does - he can't be worse than Wello, Wilkin and especially Ashe at HB.

Re: Gaz O'Brien : Thu May 30, 2013 11:49 am  

saint at wire wrote:

Let's see how he does - he can't be worse than Wello, Wilkin and especially Ashe at HB.

I'm all for it. I'm always in favour of playing players in position. I just wonder whether he will cope (with the pressure as we need wins) and our team will cope (with yet more disruption).

Re: Gaz O'Brien : Thu May 30, 2013 11:59 am  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

So it seems that quite a few of you are now agreeing with what I have been saying for the last four years?

Just look at the England U18 academy team that beat France last weekend.

No one thinks you are anything than what you are.

Re: Gaz O'Brien : Thu May 30, 2013 12:18 pm  

Loz wrote:

No one thinks you are anything than what you are.

Rogues Gallery is ....

Re: Gaz O'Brien : Thu May 30, 2013 12:20 pm  

Good news for me. Yes, it is worrying that we are in a position where we need to bring in a youngster from another club, but we all knew we were in that position already and we would be stupid to ignore the option of a decent quick fix. At least it shows the club haven't written off this season, even if many of the fans have.

Re: Gaz O'Brien : Thu May 30, 2013 12:33 pm  

Dux wrote:

Good news for me. Yes, it is worrying that we are in a position where we need to bring in a youngster from another club, but we all knew we were in that position already and we would be stupid to ignore the option of a decent quick fix. At least it shows the club haven't written off this season, even if many of the fans have.

There could easily be more to this than the mini crisis we're in this season. It is rumoured that Leigh have a really promising half back (Brierley) who will be playing Super League next season. If Warrington are that club, it may well be that O'Brien doesn't have a place for next season and wants out. This could end up being a trial more than a month's loan. (I don't see what good a month does, as we're back in the same boat when he goes).