Re: Turner : Sat Mar 09, 2013 12:19 pm  

St pete wrote:

I think Makinson problem is he can't beat a man. He's not got anything in his locker that would worry any team in attack. IMO that's a big problem for a centre .

I think thats harsh without seeing him perform at centre at a high level.

for example he scored a hatrick last week playing in the centres for Rochdale.

Makinson possesses pace, and that worries any defender.

I would like to see Saints try him there against the likes of Wakefield to see how it turns out.
Better to try and fail than never to have tried at all.

Re: Turner : Sat Mar 09, 2013 12:28 pm  

The Chair Maker wrote:

I think thats harsh without seeing him perform at centre at a high level.

for example he scored a hatrick last week playing in the centres for Rochdale.

Makinson possesses pace, and that worries any defender.

I would like to see Saints try him there against the likes of Wakefield to see how it turns out.
Better to try and fail than never to have tried at all.

Pace does worry defenders but IMO hes not that fast. Don't forget mate I've actually trained and run with tommy. He's fast but not super fast.

Does he have a step ? No

Does he have good footwork ? No

Can he knock players off ? No

I like tommy but IMO he's a winger.

Re: Turner : Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:36 pm  

St pete wrote:

Pace does worry defenders but IMO hes not that fast. Don't forget mate I've actually trained and run with tommy. He's fast but not super fast.

Does he have a step ? No

Does he have good footwork ? No

Can he knock players off ? No

I like tommy but IMO he's a winger.

I know he isnt super fast. However he would be a touch quicker than most centres out there which i think could help stretch opposition backlines, as he should be able to get on the outside of the defending centres.

This is all hypothetical though and the only way of truly finding out either way is by playing him there and seeing how he shapes up.

Re: Turner : Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:39 pm  

The Chair Maker wrote:

I know he isnt super fast. However he would be a touch quicker than most centres out there which i think could help stretch opposition backlines, as he should be able to get on the outside of the defending centres.

This is all hypothetical though and the only way of truly finding out either way is by playing him there and seeing how he shapes up.

I think we need a different option instead of Jones. Hasn't really impressed me, he just seems to be another solid player.

Re: Turner : Sat Mar 09, 2013 3:42 pm  

St pete wrote:

Pace does worry defenders but IMO hes not that fast.

I have a clear memory of him turning Sam Tomkins inside out during the playoffs at the DW in 2011. I also remember him haring down the pitch at LP to score an almost full lengther against Salford I think it was. He's fast enough for my liking and certainly a ton faster than Gardner or Meli.

Re: Turner : Sat Mar 09, 2013 3:46 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

I have a clear memory of him turning Sam Tomkins inside out during the playoffs at the DW in 2011. I also remember him haring down the pitch at LP to score an almost full lengther against Salford I think it was. He's fast enough for my liking and certainly a ton faster than Gardner or Meli.

He's not super fast, if we are picking centres on speed then Percival and Turner would start.

Makinson is a steady winger and nothing more.

Re: Turner : Sat Mar 09, 2013 5:21 pm  

St pete wrote:

He's not super fast, if we are picking centres on speed then Percival and Turner would start.

Makinson is a steady winger and nothing more.

Swift seems faster more elusive can step off both feet, strange how Makinson has stagnated similar to Foster.

Re: Turner : Sat Mar 09, 2013 6:39 pm  

Judder Man wrote:

Swift seems faster more elusive can step off both feet, strange how Makinson has stagnated similar to Foster.

Yep, he doesn't seem to have kicked on from two years ago

Re: Turner : Fri Mar 15, 2013 11:03 pm  

BackrowSaint wrote:

Sensational defence.

Yup, seems I was wrong on this one, he's great

No, as ever I'm right.

He's awful defensively. About 50 seconds it took Wakefield to carve an enormous, gaping hole in our defense down Turner's flank. He's a complete liability defensively and we seemed to change his position every five minutes tonight, no doubt to try and confuse Wakefield so they couldn't exploit it. He played left centre, left wing, right centre and stand off/loose forward tonight. Average with the ball in all positions and defensively woeful. I really don't see it with Turner. If it has to be in the side, it has to be on the wing where he can do the least damage and we can occasionally exploit his pace, if he has any, as we've not seen him have a gallop as yet.

Re: Turner : Fri Mar 15, 2013 11:24 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

Yup, seems I was wrong on this one, he's great

No, as ever I'm right.

He's awful defensively. About 50 seconds it took Wakefield to carve an enormous, gaping hole in our defense down Turner's flank. He's a complete liability defensively and we seemed to change his position every five minutes tonight, no doubt to try and confuse Wakefield so they couldn't exploit it. He played left centre, left wing, right centre and stand off/loose forward tonight. Average with the ball in all positions and defensively woeful. I really don't see it with Turner. If it has to be in the side, it has to be on the wing where he can do the least damage and we can occasionally exploit his pace, if he has any, as we've not seen him have a gallop as yet.

He did a couple of poor reads defensively but otherwise had a strong game. Its hard to keep defensive structure if your being asked , (due to injury)to play in all those different positions . He must have been knackered by the end of the game due to putting in a big shift, both in attack and defence.

I thought him and Meli were devastating in attack together, he was giving Meli good ball in acres of space to work with. Hence why Turner scored two tries.