Re: 30 -0 : Mon Sep 03, 2012 3:54 pm  

St_Cunningham_no9 wrote:

Abolish the Club call though as it is an absolute Farce that you can choose who you play to try to get to Old Trafford.

All for that! but I would go one step further & make it simply a knockout competition just with the top club going through, no second bites of the cherry! whoever came up with that is beyond me, lose a cup game but go on have another go? it should the simply the Sky TV Knockout Trophy and the Top of Super League are the Premiership Winners!

Re: 30 -0 : Mon Sep 03, 2012 3:57 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

I have heard Omari Caro is signing for HKR. It was he who won the fastest man competition recently at Headingley. I saw him play recently in London V Wigan U20's and he was really quick, scoring two superb long range tries, but he was very raw, particularly defensively.

I do like the looks of Dixon and Dan Sarginson from the Broncos, both look very exciting players.

We have got to start holding on to these players! we can't just be looked as a feeder club, three good players in Sarginson, Dixon and Caro, I think players living together in club houses helps, it builds up good moral as many of the London lads would come from a large area of the Capital which can take two hours to travel across.

Re: 30 -0 : Mon Sep 03, 2012 4:00 pm  

Noel Cleal wrote:

I noticed that with about 20 mins left everyone was talking amongst themselves. We can sometimes be a quite crowd at home but that is usually down to us paying attention to the game rather than just not being interested.

I used to take the mick out of people who go to games and do everything but watch them. But I became one on Friday night, despite the fact that the Chelsea updates were loading at a slugs pace on our phones. I even looked at the clock expecting time to be up, and was gutted when it had 10 minutes left.

Carlos Alberto wrote:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/19396251

Read Mike Rush's comments regarding LMS. No wonder we are so dull to watch.

Doesn't surprise me if he's on the blower to Daniel Anderson every week. So obsessed with completing sets that we almost look shocked when we fall over the line. I just hope that this isn't the long term plan that Brown has in his ear and they are just steadying the ship so to speak.

On another note, Dixon has been called up to the England Knights squad. Well deserved judging by that performance.

Re: 30 -0 : Mon Sep 03, 2012 4:55 pm  

St_Cunningham_no9 wrote:

Every team in the top 8 has a chance! at the end of the day it's knock out Rugby for 5th - 8th from week 1 of the play offs then the rest join from week 2 (depending on their week 1 results).

Abolish the Club call though as it is an absolute Farce that you can choose who you play to try to get to Old Trafford.

If we play with the same style of play as we have done recently and for the majority of the season we don't stand a chance. Warrington, Wigan and Leeds would find it easy to defend against us and we wouldn't be able to overpower them. If we play like we did in that game against Leeds at Langtree Park earlier in the year were we offloaded the ball and played with pace at the ruck, who knows.

I won't be holding my breath though. Our recent performances are worrying.

Re: 30 -0 : Mon Sep 03, 2012 5:47 pm  

Blobbynator wrote:

If we play with the same style of play as we have done recently and for the majority of the season we don't stand a chance. Warrington, Wigan and Leeds would find it easy to defend against us and we wouldn't be able to overpower them. If we play like we did in that game against Leeds at Langtree Park earlier in the year were we offloaded the ball and played with pace at the ruck, who knows.

I won't be holding my breath though. Our recent performances are worrying.

My top 8 comment was a generalisation and I hope that Mike Rush gives the squad freedom to play expansive rugby like we did in the Leeds and Warrington games at the beginning of their tenure.

I'm seriously hoping we can make a good go of the play-offs as it seems to be when we are at our most clinical (until the Grand Final)

Re: 30 -0 : Mon Sep 03, 2012 8:32 pm  

wakey_saint wrote:

after all I would take boring games all day long if it gets the job done and could bring the trophy home

And this is where a lot of us differ.

a) It won't see us bring the trophy home because Warrington and Wigan are miles better than us, but it could see us progress quite far - albeit ultimately ending up failures yet again.

More importantly though -

b) I pay my money to enjoy my evening. I pay to be entertained. Whilst we all accept that sometimes you have to grind out the odd result to achieve your goals, when that starts to happen every single week, then I cease to sympathise with the attitude.

I've seen Saints teams lose many more games in a season than this but enjoyed them much more. Winning isn't everything to me. If all I cared about was the result then I'd watch the game on the BBC score updates page.

I was that bored that I watched about twenty minutes of the game on Friday. I probably spent more time looking at my phone. If it wasn't for modern technology, I'd have been forced to watch it all and that would have been a punishment too far.

Re: 30 -0 : Tue Sep 04, 2012 6:47 am  

i really don't know why some of you on this forum, bother to go watching saints.. All you ever do is complain, you would probably complain if you won the lotto, if you do win it please don't buy saints off mac, we would all be slitting our throats reading the chairmans comments in the programme

Re: 30 -0 : Tue Sep 04, 2012 10:49 am  

Paul Wellens wrote:

"I think we made some really positive strides against London."

Oh. My. God.

Re: 30 -0 : Tue Sep 04, 2012 11:16 am  

(Saint) wrote:

Oh. My. God.

Compared to the previous game he has a point!

I think they truely are defense and error reduction minded coaches. It went wrong against Wakey and so they went back to reducing errors and making the defense solid.

In a way we really need a 3rd coach to go with these 2. These 2 can work on defense and a Sean Long type to give some ideas going forwards.

It's always a balance between chancing your arm and accepting that you will turn the ball over more often and playing it so tight that it's more like 1980' England Rugby Union where territory and possesion are everything.

Re: 30 -0 : Tue Sep 04, 2012 11:34 am  

bewareshadows wrote:

Compared to the previous game he has a point!

I think they truely are defense and error reduction minded coaches. It went wrong against Wakey and so they went back to reducing errors and making the defense solid.

In a way we really need a 3rd coach to go with these 2. These 2 can work on defense and a Sean Long type to give some ideas going forwards.

It's always a balance between chancing your arm and accepting that you will turn the ball over more often and playing it so tight that it's more like 1980' England Rugby Union where territory and possesion are everything.

You're right, of course. But for an all St Helens coaching team, St Helens chairman (and a St Helens captain!) to endorse our current playing style is sacrilegious. You'd think they'd understand as well as any fan...