Re: Brown n out?? : Mon Jul 16, 2012 8:46 pm  

viewtopic.php?f=26&t=522444&tsmp=1342458047 This thread appeared on the Hudds board when the 'Brown to Saints' rumours first broke. Many, many positive comments about Brown and how he brought Hudds fom nothing to become a genuine force. None of the 'tinkerman', 'lightweight pack' or 'no plan b' criticisms. As the deal was confirmed, the Hudds fans (and likely the players) have become aggrieved that Brown has jumped ship for a SL rival rather than the NRL team he often spoke about. The slump begins and suddenly Brown is a mediocre coach who can't handle the players, plays fullbacks at prop and makes conditioners cry. I'd prefer to judge him based on where Hudds were when he took up the reigns and where he took them to before announcing his dream ( ) move to Saints and the wheels fell off. How fickle fans can be.

viewtopic.php?f=26&t=522444&tsmp=1342458047 This thread appeared on the Hudds board when the 'Brown to Saints' rumours first broke. Many, many positive comments about Brown and how he brought Hudds fom nothing to become a genuine force. None of the 'tinkerman', 'lightweight pack' or 'no plan b' criticisms. As the deal was confirmed, the Hudds fans (and likely the players) have become aggrieved that Brown has jumped ship for a SL rival rather than the NRL team he often spoke about. The slump begins and suddenly Brown is a mediocre coach who can't handle the players, plays fullbacks at prop and makes conditioners cry. I'd prefer to judge him based on where Hudds were when he took up the reigns and where he took them to before announcing his dream ( ) move to Saints and the wheels fell off. How fickle fans can be.

Re: Brown n out?? : Mon Jul 16, 2012 8:47 pm  

Cragganmore Kid wrote:

The slump begins and suddenly Brown is a mediocre coach who can't handle the players, plays fullbacks at prop and makes conditioners cry.

Not quite. They won a couple following the announcement, and they had slumps last season and the season before as well, even when Brown wasn't changing his mind about going to Australia (ie last season). Nothing to do with his decision to go to Saints IMO, regardless of anything else.

Re: Brown n out?? : Mon Jul 16, 2012 8:50 pm  

If Brown is a strong coach, can see him shifting Lance to No 9 and Roby at 13 straight away.

Re: Brown n out?? : Mon Jul 16, 2012 8:52 pm  

Cragganmore Kid wrote:

http://forums.rlfans.com/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=522444&tsmp=1342458047

This thread appeared on the Hudds board when the 'Brown to Saints' rumours first broke. Many, many positive comments about Brown and how he brought Hudds fom nothing to become a genuine force. None of the 'tinkerman', 'lightweight pack' or 'no plan b' criticisms.

As the deal was confirmed, the Hudds fans (and likely the players) have become aggrieved that Brown has jumped ship for a SL rival rather than the NRL team he often spoke about.

The slump begins and suddenly Brown is a mediocre coach who can't handle the players, plays fullbacks at prop and makes conditioners cry.

I'd prefer to judge him based on where Hudds were when he took up the reigns and where he took them to before announcing his dream ( ) move to Saints and the wheels fell off.

How fickle fans can be.

That's how I see it and totally agree.

He's the scapegoat.

Re: Brown n out?? : Mon Jul 16, 2012 8:54 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

Not quite. They won a couple following the announcement, and they had slumps last season and the season before as well, even when Brown wasn't changing his mind about going to Australia (ie last season). Nothing to do with his decision to go to Saints IMO, regardless of anything else.

Maybe it was nothing to do with his decision to join Saints in terms of the slump, but that decision certainly seems to be the catalyst in the mass memory wiping of a number of Hudds fans.

Re: Brown n out?? : Mon Jul 16, 2012 8:58 pm  

Simmons had a far better coaching pedigree than Brown. How long before you sack him too?

Sts are an average side these days. I don’t see too many stars queing up to sign.

Maybe when Browny moves Wello to the second row and Roby to prop things will improve.

Re: Brown n out?? : Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:00 pm  

wigsey wrote:

Simmons had a far better coaching pedigree than Brown. How long before you sack him too?

Sts are an average side these days. I don’t see too many stars queing up to sign.

Maybe when Browny moves Wello to the second row and Roby to prop things will improve.

I give you Evidence A, m'lud.

Amnesic, and more than a little bitter.

Re: Brown n out?? : Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:02 pm  

Cragganmore Kid wrote:

Maybe it was nothing to do with his decision to join Saints in terms of the slump, but that decision certainly seems to be the catalyst in the mass memory wiping of a number of Hudds fans.

Oh yes, I would agree with that.

Re: Brown n out?? : Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:06 pm  

wigsey wrote:

Simmons had a far better coaching pedigree than Brown.

Did he? I don't actually know what Brown's pedigree is. I think Simmons got Penrith to a Grand Final but was sacked when they slipped to the bottom of the league. Mind you, Daniel Anderson suffered the same fate after the Eels followed the same pattern (and much more quickly too) so that isn't necessarily a criticism. I think Simmons got Hull to a couple of semis too but other than that he was an assistant for a long time at Wests.

Re: Brown n out?? : Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:10 pm  

Best thing to happen to us in the last 30 years bar Davy taking over.

He'll go well at Saints.