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Re: Derby week!! : Wed Apr 04, 2012 7:44 pm  
Allez wrote:
Good shout - demonstrates their level of intelligence if they think anyone is taken in by any of this claptrap. They'll play on Friday and I am sure Rushy and Keiron are preparing for that and concentrating on what we do not what team they turn out. They'll have 17 on the grass that represent the enemy -doesn't matter which ones they are.

Still, refreshing to learn that the Ape's elocution lessons and going well and he's widening his vocab a bit. All I've heard all season is:

1. 'Ahm gutted',
2. 'Ahm devastated',
3. 'Ah won't sleep ternart'
4. 'We're better than that',
5. 'We need to be better than that' (slight variation on theme 4, above),
6. 'Am prewd of th'effort of mah players but we need to be better than that (slight variation on theme 4, above),
7. 'Ah'll watch that video 6 tarms',
8. 'That's not acceptable to me',
9. 'That's not acceptable to this Club',
10. 'That's just not acceptable'.
11. 'I won't accept it and the players won't accept it',
12. 'We're better than that and we will be better than that'.

ad nauseum

Ahh coochie, we can play gorilla bingo with his inane comments, will make a change from Stevo bingo :D
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Re: Derby week!! : Wed Apr 04, 2012 9:47 pm  
none of you was complaining about millwards constant mind games? no doubt there is a few knocks in the team they wouldn't be rugby league players if not.

i know its terrible to have a coach who wants he's players to strive for better performances ian should sack him now so you don't have to chose to listen to hes delightful interviews :). on the plus side for saints fans i guess its nice to know wigan haven't been playing aswell since madge left hard man to replace it seems.
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Re: Derby week!! : Wed Apr 04, 2012 10:15 pm  
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none of you was complaining about millwards constant mind games?


In Millward's day there were no squad announcements, so there was the ability to keep the lineup secret until the warm up an hour before kick off. Now that isn't possible so there is no advantage to it other than getting your excuses in early. If Wigan win he'll bang on about their glorious bravery and if they lose he'll bang on about their injuries. Truth is Wigan are in fantastic condition with only one or two minor players (Lets face it Fielden and Flower are garbage) missing and one reasonable first team player in Mossop missing.

Saints have Laffranchi, Wellens and Wheeler so are at more of a disadvantage than Wigan are, yet they've spent the entire week moaning about their crisis.
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Re: Derby week!! : Wed Apr 04, 2012 10:25 pm  
the whole concept of donkey kong trying to plan mind games is silly, he doesn't have the capacity to do it convincingly
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Re: Derby week!! : Thu Apr 05, 2012 12:23 am  
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In Millward's day there were no squad announcements, so there was the ability to keep the lineup secret until the warm up an hour before kick off. Now that isn't possible so there is no advantage to it other than getting your excuses in early. If Wigan win he'll bang on about their glorious bravery and if they lose he'll bang on about their injuries. Truth is Wigan are in fantastic condition with only one or two minor players (Lets face it Fielden and Flower are garbage) missing and one reasonable first team player in Mossop missing.

Saints have Laffranchi, Wellens and Wheeler so are at more of a disadvantage than Wigan are, yet they've spent the entire week moaning about their crisis.


really fielden is rubbish :S maybe wasn't as good as he once was but to say he is rubbish is rubbish in it self. flower well he is a sqaud filler nothing exceptional agreed. but to say mossop is a so so player :BEAT: he is the best of the current young english props and will become the best. more to the point is we are missing 4 props 3 injuries and 1 banned

yes laffranchi is a good player for you gives 100percent even with royce in charge but hardly like for like with mossop missing, wellens yeah big blow but why do something stupid its hardly bad luck, wheeler could become a main player for you but so far he hasn't so no real loss.
so you have 2 players banned 1 injured and none of them in the same position not as bad situation for saints.
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Re: Derby week!! : Thu Apr 05, 2012 7:44 am  
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yes laffranchi is a good player for you gives 100percent even with royce in charge but hardly like for like with mossop missing


True, it's not like Laffranchi carries the ball more, tackles more, makes more tackle busts, makes more offloads . . . . . is it?
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Re: Derby week!! : Thu Apr 05, 2012 7:58 am  
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True, it's not like Laffranchi carries the ball more, tackles more, makes more tackle busts, makes more offloads . . . . . is it?

Mossop has a very high yards per carry at just under 8. Given that he's made no cleans breaks to distort that figure, its shows he's giving them excellent go forward. I'm glad he's missing as I think he's turned into a major player for them.

its a pity Richards is back. Charnley's boot looks a little wayward and could've been the difference if things are close.
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Re: Derby week!! : Thu Apr 05, 2012 8:15 am  
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Mossop has a very high yards per carry at just under 8. Given that he's made no cleans breaks to distort that figure, its shows he's giving them excellent go forward. I'm glad he's missing as I think he's turned into a major player for them.

its a pity Richards is back. Charnley's boot looks a little wayward and could've been the difference if things are close.


I know, he's a cracking player and I agree he'll go on to be Britain's best prop. But to say us missing Laffranchi isn't comparable is just tosh. La Frank has been huge for us the last couple of weeks.
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Re: Derby week!! : Thu Apr 05, 2012 8:22 am  
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True, it's not like Laffranchi carries the ball more, tackles more, makes more tackle busts, makes more offloads . . . . . is it?


sorry that didnt come across as i wanted, i think laffranchi is a good player alot better than i thought he was going to be and i put that on another thread somewhere. what i mean is i dont think laffranchi will be your man go forward man where as this season mossop has been wigans.
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Re: Derby week!! : Thu Apr 05, 2012 8:36 am  
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I know, he's a cracking player and I agree he'll go on to be Britain's best prop. But to say us missing Laffranchi isn't comparable is just tosh. La Frank has been huge for us the last couple of weeks.

Yes, and to be fair, I posted his stats compared to Morley's in the run up to the Leeds game and they were virtually identical. Since then the extra movement and pace we've brought in has seen all our props go up a gearand are all impressing.
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