Re: Josh Jones : Sat Mar 31, 2012 6:23 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

But if you want to be understood in the written medium you need to learn how to write in coherent sentences. Masters degrees count for nought on an Internet forum.

Would that be a bate masters degree?.

Re: Josh Jones : Sat Mar 31, 2012 6:26 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

I've watched the match back again this morning and Wilkin didn't come out of the line as you said he did.

In your opinion, was Meli at fault?

Re: Josh Jones : Sat Mar 31, 2012 6:31 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

I've watched the match back again this morning and Wilkin didn't come out of the line as you said he did.

So the player with number 12 Wilkin written on his back doesnt shoot out of the line ? He does he can see they are weak on that side and he shoots out but misses,Jones is up and in and Meli doesnt have a choice where to stand,if he stays out there is a massive gap,if he stays in there is a gap.Credit Briers for fooling the defence by taking a step the otherway before changing the direction of the play.

Cant fault Meli for it,cant fault Jones for it ( who looked very promising on debut )

Re: Josh Jones : Sat Mar 31, 2012 8:14 pm  

I was surprised he was picked, but with the loss of Puletua they wanted Soliola's weight in the pack and thought that bringing him in would cause less disruption than moving Meli and bringing Makinson or Foster in. We won handsomely and he didn't look out of his depth. The decision was the right one.

Re: Josh Jones : Sat Mar 31, 2012 8:52 pm  

brook40 wrote:

So the player with number 12 Wilkin written on his back doesnt shoot out of the line ?

Not in the move I watched on Sky during the rugby league match between Warrington and St Helens that took place on Friday night, no. However, the line didn't slide. That is actually what happened.

Meli will always give at least one try away and time will tell as to whether he maintains this sudden enthusiasm for taking the ball forward instead of passing it to the skinniest guy on the field to get squashed. I'm surprised Leeds didn't aim straight for Meli just as they did in the GF. They would have had a lot of joy, as indeed would Warrington (had they actually been able to string an attacking play together without being so amazingly dumb). But Leeds were absolute tosh at our place so upon reflection that they didn't probably wasn't too much of a surprise.

Re: Josh Jones : Sat Mar 31, 2012 9:13 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

Not in the move I watched on Sky during the rugby league match between Warrington and St Helens that took place on Friday night, no. However, the line didn't slide. That is actually what happened.

Meli will always give at least one try away and time will tell as to whether he maintains this sudden enthusiasm for taking the ball forward instead of passing it to the skinniest guy on the field to get squashed. I'm surprised Leeds didn't aim straight for Meli just as they did in the GF. They would have had a lot of joy, as indeed would Warrington (had they actually been able to string an attacking play together without being so amazingly dumb). But Leeds were absolute tosh at our place so upon reflection that they didn't probably wasn't too much of a surprise.

So basically like i said its not Meli's fault,you said it was and you again say he will give a try away but the fact is he didnt.I know the line didnt slide and why didnt it slide ? because a player shot out ( and in fairness given the overlap they had he had to ) and the centre went up and in. I do wonder at times what you see or at least what you think you see and ive come to the conclusion that just like an experienced pro will see things that i dont see or quicker than i see them,people who have played the game will see things you dont see or read them a different way to you.

Its personal opinion at the end of the day so your welcome to your point of view and once again i think its a case of agreeing to disagree.

Re: Josh Jones : Sat Mar 31, 2012 9:15 pm  

brook40 wrote:

So basically like i said its not Meli's fault,you said it was and you again say he will give a try away but the fact is he didnt.I know the line didnt slide and why didnt it slide ? because a player shot out

We will continue to disagree on this so I'm saying nothing further than Meli didn't move over. He stayed in rather than dragging his newbie centre out along with him.

Re: Josh Jones : Sun Apr 01, 2012 10:42 am  

brook40 wrote:

So the player with number 12 Wilkin written on his back doesnt shoot out of the line ? He does he can see they are weak on that side and he shoots out but misses,Jones is up and in and Meli doesnt have a choice where to stand,if he stays out there is a massive gap,if he stays in there is a gap.Credit Briers for fooling the defence by taking a step the otherway before changing the direction of the play.

Cant fault Meli for it,cant fault Jones for it ( who looked very promising on debut )

Couple of quotes come to mind

"You can't win an argument with a fool because they can't tell when they've lost"

"Arguing with a fool is like wrestling with a pig. You get all sweaty, worked up and covered in crap, and after a while you realise... the pig's enjoying itself!"

The loss of Royce Simmons has clearly tipped 'Saintsfan' over the edge.

Re: Josh Jones : Mon Apr 02, 2012 6:34 am  

SaintsFan wrote:

We will continue to disagree on this so I'm saying nothing further than Meli didn't move over. He stayed in rather than dragging his newbie centre out along with him.

If Jones had come out one, Hodgeson would have just scored the try himself without even having to pass it.

Anyone who puts the blame with a winger for the opposition scoring when they've got a 3 on 2 overlap needs to have their head read.

Re: Josh Jones : Mon Apr 02, 2012 9:54 am  

SaintsFan, surely you can see you are fighting a losing battle? The decision to sack Royce was the right one and the try wasn't Meli's fault.