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Re: Who should play where : Mon May 30, 2011 12:00 pm  
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My new pet hate is the people writing we don't need to replace Gardner for next year because weve got makinson and he's fast :lol:

As a side note: I've just read the u20s report on the Saints website and Makinson played at centre in their recent game. Clearly he's not being restricted. Nathan Ashe was the fullback and sounds like he was into everything.
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Re: Who should play where : Mon May 30, 2011 4:24 pm  
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Like I said I'm my other posts, youth is all well and good but for every one good kid we prob get five bad ones. Teams need to be very very lucky to produce young lads that all kick on and make it. We've brought same great players through the youth in the super league era like wello, roby, Graham, KC etc but we've also brought through so called next generation superstars that are now no where to be seen or playing for lesser clubs.

I don't buy into the views like we don't need to replace wello because we've got Ian hardman, we don't need to replace Lyon because we've got Ste tyrer and so on because 90% of the time it just don't work.

We big these kids up so much it's scary, if it's that easy to replace players then why not just throw our u20s out.



I'm not saying throw the 20's out, what I am saying is that if they get the job done, then we should not just be switching players for names sake.

Also it's a changed game nowa days from 10 years ago. 10 years ago, with all the get outs teams could look to the talent pool in austrailia to fill any gaps. However present circumstances mean that the talent pool in the NRL is no longer a fishing ground for gaps in your own youth development. Instead we are going to have to fill our own gaps or rely on other SL clubs to fill those gaps.

So we did have Steve Tyre, but I think most fans can say he did not make the grade at Saints, but he was given his chance, to try and grab that spot. For me Lomax has taken his chance and proved he is up to the first team half back position. Gaskell has also taken his chance and has shown potential, I'm not saying he is at Lomax's standard yet, but also he plays a different role to Lomax and Pryce etc. Which is why I would have him in my team as although not the finished article he gives something different. Now if Wheeler was ready, then I would not be able to say which of the 2 are better, but you would expect it to be Wheeler, who like Lomax is 2 years ahead of Gaskell.

It may very well be that Gaskell does not make it, but if he keeps getting better and better with each game it will be difficult just to say well wait 2 years with no game time as we are keeping Leon, Lance, Lomax and Wheeler. Same goes for Wheeler.

As for Hardman replacing Wellens, I'm not sure where that one came from as, I don't think during the time of Hardman, that Wellens was up for replacement. He's only just turned 31.

Ashe maybe a replacement for Wellens, or Lance or Lomax or Wheeler, but I never thought it would be hardman. Hardman may have been a stand in for injury, but that's a different senario.
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Re: Who should play where : Mon May 30, 2011 5:15 pm  
I agree with most of your post mate. I'm not saying pick certain players because of there names. I'm all for picking form players. Lomax has been awesome at 7 and IMO he's earned that role and Kyle has lost his shirt.

In the Gaskell situation, I think he's done really well, he's done everything asked of him and I really like him but I don't think he's played that well for pryce not to take his shirt. He's been steady and that's all that should have been asked of him but at this moment in time I think a 60% Pryce is better than Gaskell at this moment.

IMO I don't think we will win anything this year or next year at least with lomax and Gaskell as the halves. They will never let us down and will rip it up against the not so good teams but in the big games against Wigan, hudds, Leeds, wolves I think they would struggle.

I'm not saying drop Gaskell altogether but maybe he's a good shout for the back that Royce likes on the bench and bring him in against the teams we are expected to beat so he's still active in the first team and getting regular super league game time to keep his development up.
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Re: Who should play where : Mon May 30, 2011 5:19 pm  
was it not lomax and gaskell at half when we beat leeds so just shows they can do and we will find out how good they are in the next four weeks then we can judge them
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Re: Who should play where : Mon May 30, 2011 5:25 pm  
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was it not lomax and gaskell at half when we beat leeds so just shows they can do and we will find out how good they are in the next four weeks then we can judge them


Yes I think it was but I dont think they could do it in the pressure of the play offs or challenge cup. Leeds to be fair have been hit and miss this year.
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Re: Who should play where : Mon May 30, 2011 5:32 pm  
if they get the chance thats the only way we will find out and i think gaskell will be in for the next five weeks a least
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Re: Who should play where : Mon May 30, 2011 5:41 pm  
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if they get the chance thats the only way we will find out and i think gaskell will be in for the next five weeks a least


I think Leon will be playing in the next 3 weeks.
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Re: Who should play where : Mon May 30, 2011 5:47 pm  
leon will prob be back in three week but cant see him playing in the half more chance at centre
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Re: Who should play where : Mon May 30, 2011 5:51 pm  
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leon will prob be back in three week but cant see him playing in the half more chance at centre


Soon as he's fully fit he'll be straight in at 6.
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Re: Who should play where : Mon May 30, 2011 5:59 pm  
i aint saying he wont but we have to get him fully fit first which the last time that happened was nearly 12 months ago is there any news on is scans yet
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