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Re: Saints v Huddersfield : Sat May 14, 2011 10:40 pm  
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Perry
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Which of these 11 would have missed out if the 10 that were missing would definitely have played according to Eddie Hemmings?

Just imagine what the score would have been had we had all our injured players in the team tonight.
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Re: Saints v Huddersfield : Sat May 14, 2011 10:42 pm  
Just a little mention for hale who went pretty well on his debut. He held his own and looked solid enough after being called up late from flannery dropping out.
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Re: Saints v Huddersfield : Sat May 14, 2011 10:44 pm  
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Wellans
Meli
Shenton
Soliola
Gardener
Foster
Graham
Roby
Perry
Mcarthy-Scarsbrook
Wilkin

Which of these 11 would have missed out if the 10 that were missing would definitely have played according to Eddie Hemmings?

We didn't have ten first team regulars out but did have wheeler, Pryce, lomax, eastmond, Tony P, flannery, clough and Moore who'd have all been pushing for the 17.
Just imagine what the score would have been had we had all our injured players in the team tonight.
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Re: Saints v Huddersfield : Sat May 14, 2011 10:48 pm  
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Wellans
Meli
Shenton
Soliola
Gardener
Foster
Graham
Roby
Perry
Mcarthy-Scarsbrook
Wilkin

Which of these 11 would have missed out if the 10 that were missing would definitely have played according to Eddie Hemmings?

Just imagine what the score would have been had we had all our injured players in the team tonight.


No halfbacks. I'm getting sick of posting that tonight. NO BLOODY HALFBACKS.

It's like driving an F1 car without a steering wheel. It could be problematic.
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Re: Saints v Huddersfield : Sat May 14, 2011 11:00 pm  
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No halfbacks. I'm getting sick of posting that tonight. NO BLOODY HALFBACKS.

It's like driving an F1 car without a steering wheel. It could be problematic.
I'm not so sure mate. After tonight I would have said you were lacking at Full Back, wings, centres, Props, 2nd rowers and loose forward. :wink:
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Re: Saints v Huddersfield : Sat May 14, 2011 11:06 pm  
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I'm not so sure mate. After tonight I would have said you were lacking at Full Back, wings, centres, Props, 2nd rowers and loose forward. :wink:


Fullback I agree with. I've said for years Wellens is pants
Wings - Foster is fine and Gardner was playing second row at times bizarely
Centres - Bloody awful performances from them today, particularly defensively
Props - We only had 2 as Perry sat a lot of it out, both did fine
Backrow - At times we had a backrow of Gardner, Hale and Mackinson (I'm not sure how the last one happened but there were times I couldn't see where else he could be playing as he wasn't leaving the middle of the field)
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Re: Saints v Huddersfield : Sat May 14, 2011 11:12 pm  
From what I understand, we had so many injuries this week, we did not actually train (just gymn work). You can't look at who played and say well you don't have that many out. Unlike the Giants we have not had the luxury to rotate fit players. instead, if you can walk you play.


Players who probably would not have been playing today if a body was available. That's another question, Flannery was not even in the 19 squad, but we where trying to rush him out there. Graham had a bust sternum a few weeks back, but has not been rested, NAthan Ashe was not ready to play, Wellens has been rushed back from injury, there are others out there carrying not niggles, but injuries that require rest, but we just can't afford to do it, it's the 17 least injured out there at the moment, not the 17 who have done the best in training.

It's nice when you can rotate the likes of Lunt and Robinson at hooker, but Roby has been doing a full 80 for 5 or 6 games now. He's a machine but even the best this will take a toll.

Brough is a class kicker and brown has been getting better and better each year. We had a 2nd rower and a rookie fullback playing in the half's.

Because of that, we did not have Wilkin in the 2nd row. As for our pack, well look what we could bring on, that's where it showed in the 2nd half, when we had to rotate and rest graham and soliola.

We had wingers and centres in the pack during the game. So yes we had some good players on the pitch but the conditions they are playing under are not ideal and have not been for weeks, it takes it's toll.

Wellens (back too soon)
Foster (fine)
Shenton (fine)
Meli (fine he was awful)
Gardner (is not a 2nd rower by any stretch)
Wilkin (not a half back)
Ashe (back too soon and not a halfback)

Graham (fine but far too many minutes played in recent weeks and today)
Roby ( has not had any game time out in 6 weeks, can anyone else name a hooker with so much game time)
Perry (fine)
Soliola (fine)
Ashurst (would struggle to make the 19 in normal weeks)
Megenis (would normally make the 19 squad maybe)

LMS (fine)
Armstrong (would get the odd game as a sub against lower league opposition)
Makinson (back with an injury 3rd game ever or is it 4th)
Scott Hale ( not sure this lad had a squad number a few weeks ago)

So I make that 6 players, playing under what would be normal conditions for any player. The rest are playing through injury or doing longer minutes or playing at a level above what would be expected or playing positions that are just not their positions.

When you have players playing the full 80, wingers in the pack and pack players at halfback, then feel free to say we are milking this situation.

As far as I can remember I've never known an injury crisis like this at Saint's ever.
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Re: Saints v Huddersfield : Sat May 14, 2011 11:13 pm  
Mason, Fa'alogo and Luke O'Donnell missing for us, 3 of our starting pack
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Re: Saints v Huddersfield : Sat May 14, 2011 11:27 pm  
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Mason, Fa'alogo and Luke O'Donnell missing for us, 3 of our starting pack


Pretty much netted off by us missing Flannery, Puletua and Perry (For part of the game).

The difference is the half backs.

If you threw a fully fit Leon Pryce and either Lomax or Eastmond into the game today it would be completely different. Huddersfield may still win (As you may well do if we were absolutely full strength) but it wouldn't have been so easy for you.
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Re: Saints v Huddersfield : Sat May 14, 2011 11:27 pm  
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Mason, Fa'alogo and Luke O'Donnell missing for us, 3 of our starting pack
Ssshhhhh don't tell Eddie Hemmings!!
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