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BackrowSaint wrote:
It's only on at 8, isn't it?

No, it was on at 6. It'll be on at 8 as well, and probably 10.

Apart from speaking to James Graham, though, it's basically the tries show. A real cheap effort.
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No, it was on at 6. It'll be on at 8 as well, and probably 10.

Apart from speaking to James Graham, though, it's basically the tries show. A real cheap effort.


Ah right okay, well I've got nothing better to do at 8pm on a Wednesday night so might as well give it a watch.
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I doubt he'd say, yep, I'll be back in 3 years. Wouldn't look good for the new employers, but I'd like to see him play one more season over here before he called it quits.

I'm not sure they would be bothered, given that he has signed for three years and he would be talking about in three years' time.

Anyway, we may not miss him as much as we think or for very long. We may not want him back when he's 32 with dodgy knees! :wink:
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you light up my senses.....

We all knew this day was coming but it doesn't make it any easier. - I'm still gutted. However he has been such a fantastic player for us I can only wish him well. Pity he wasn't going to play for the other Saints in the RedVee but I am sure he will be a good ambassador for English/British RL when he turns out for his new club. Thanks for everything Jammer and I hope we can send you off on a high.
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Ah well he was no good any way.

Eastmond carried him through most of last year.


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Gutted he's going but glad for Graham

Good luck and I'm sure he will carry on performing to his best for the rest of the 2011 season
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Australia is shi$. He'll be back with his ginger tail between his legs by this time next season. He won't fit in, he dances with old women rather than battering them and is too nice to be associating with that gaggle of rapists, arsonists, gangster wannabes and drunkards.
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Australia is shi$. He'll be back with his ginger tail between his legs by this time next season. He won't fit in, he dances with old women rather than battering them and is too nice to be associating with that gaggle of rapists, arsonists, gangster wannabes and drunkards.

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We must also remember that despite hailing from the region Graham was not a St. Helens lad. I've always thought non-local players are more likely to move because they do not have quite the same emotional connection. A St. Helens lad will have St. Helens relatives making it just that bit harder to move (not least because of the peer pressure they are likely to exert).

Eastmond is another (and possibly better example). He had already uprooted himself from his region just to play for Saints. And he certainly has no emotional connection to the club beyond professionalism (or lack thereof).

Of course, there are exceptions (namely Scully). But I think it underlines the crucial importance of junior development centred around local lads.
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Of course, there are exceptions (namely Scully). But I think it underlines the crucial importance of junior development centred around local lads.

I agree with that but it's also a question of circumstances. Roby, for instance, is a local lad but he's also married and stuff and says he couldn't be happier than he is at present, staying put with his family and playing for Saints. I'm not aware of James Graham having a family here? So while I agree with you on the point about truly local lads, I don't think that alone would necessarily keep a player at Saints.
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