Re: Kyle on Granada reports now : Thu Mar 10, 2011 2:23 pm  

Saint Simon wrote:

and their biggest crowd (this season but its nearly over) is only 12200, which must be near capacity. Where the old girl regularly got 17500 at capacity, so if its bigger crowds at home games hes going to the wrong place

the last thing he's bothered about is the size of the crowds at Bath FFS ! he's there for the dosh - anything else ie.England glory will be a big bonus along with the image rights etc
There's a lot of money floating around the RU world nowadays and he wants a slice of it,and good luck to him - I wish it was me !

Re: Kyle on Granada reports now : Thu Mar 10, 2011 4:16 pm  

My cousin played at School with Ste Borthwick, who played at Bath for the early part of his career.
He said it was a real goldfish bowl - everyone in the town knew him and was interested in him.

Bath is a RU equivalent of St Helens or Widnes. Small town, one team, one sporting interest.

Re: Kyle on Granada reports now : Thu Mar 10, 2011 4:29 pm  

IMO there'll be a few more making the switch to RU unless the international RL scene really picks up. England are nowhere near Australia/New Zealand but are miles in front of France/Wales/Ireland/Fiji/Samoa/Tonga/PNG. Thus leaving England RL in limbo so to speak.

No-one will care about international RL until the international side starts competing alongside Australia and New Zealand. Then the other nations start competing too.

However, thats a pipe dream, for that to happen would take a decade or more, therefore leaving the RU convert door wide open.

Re: Kyle on Granada reports now : Thu Mar 10, 2011 5:26 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

:Baths current home average crowd is 11,555 which is higher than saints have averaged for many many years.

FearTheVee wrote:

We've topped 11,000 average in 2 of the last 4 years, so I think that's a little disingenuous. It's not as if there are rampantly more fans at Bath than Saints - they are pretty similar.

Come back when we have our new stadium and make the comparison . . . . . I'd imagine Bath will be at least 1,000 on average down on Saints.

A V E R A G E D

Re: Kyle on Granada reports now : Thu Mar 10, 2011 9:19 pm  

Obsessive Saint wrote:

As a big massive Saints fan for years I now admit Union is the better game. They have move forwards the last couple of years while SL has gone backwards IMO.

Our game must change soon.

You are kidding right,if not.

Re: Kyle on Granada reports now : Thu Mar 10, 2011 9:21 pm  

100% Warrior wrote:

IMO there'll be a few more making the switch to RU unless the international RL scene really picks up. England are nowhere near Australia/New Zealand but are miles in front of France/Wales/Ireland/Fiji/Samoa/Tonga/PNG. Thus leaving England RL in limbo so to speak.

No-one will care about international RL until the international side starts competing alongside Australia and New Zealand. Then the other nations start competing too.

However, thats a pipe dream, for that to happen would take a decade or more, therefore leaving the RU convert door wide open.

My sentiments exactly mate.
The RLIF have to get the International game in order if the game is to progress.

Re: Kyle on Granada reports now : Fri Mar 11, 2011 8:42 am  

I spent years playing Union for Ormskirk. There wasn't a single member of the club (I can think of) that would give a toss about club rugby union. We'd get a decent crowd in the bar for internationals, but that was as much motivated by the mickey up factor.

There were more than a few of us who supported either Saints or Wigan, though. In fact, if Saints were to send a club like us 1/2 dozen tickets every so often, I'm sure they'd get snapped up and some new potential supporters would get introduced to the sport.
There are loads of amature rugby union clubs, full of guys who'll do the same thing - turn up to the club bar to watch a Union International game, only to spend the majority of time chatting with only one eye on the game.
There's 3 union clubs within spitting distance of my house in south liverpool, which is very handy for attending games at Widnes. Get them contacted and get some free tickets out - once they've been to a couple of games, likely hood is they'll be hooked. EVen if they don't pay for their tickets at first, they'll still be getting a pie and a pint.

Re: Kyle on Granada reports now : Fri Mar 11, 2011 1:19 pm  

Offside Monkey wrote:

I spent years playing Union for Ormskirk. There wasn't a single member of the club (I can think of) that would give a toss about club rugby union. We'd get a decent crowd in the bar for internationals, but that was as much motivated by the mickey up factor.

There were more than a few of us who supported either Saints or Wigan, though. In fact, if Saints were to send a club like us 1/2 dozen tickets every so often, I'm sure they'd get snapped up and some new potential supporters would get introduced to the sport.
There are loads of amature rugby union clubs, full of guys who'll do the same thing - turn up to the club bar to watch a Union International game, only to spend the majority of time chatting with only one eye on the game.
There's 3 union clubs within spitting distance of my house in south liverpool, which is very handy for attending games at Widnes. Get them contacted and get some free tickets out - once they've been to a couple of games, likely hood is they'll be hooked. EVen if they don't pay for their tickets at first, they'll still be getting a pie and a pint.

If that's the case, it might be worth e-mailing the club and letting them know.

Re: Kyle on Granada reports now : Sat Mar 12, 2011 12:29 pm  

I was seething when I saw that interview and my initial reaction was to rail at Eastmond and call him all the names under the sun. But why?

If it were any other walk of life, I would applaud a talented, ambitious young man for taking an opportunity like that - something that he wants to do, earn more money, self development etc etc. It's because I am so passionate about RL (and utterly irritated by RU) that this whole situation hurts so much.

It is St Helens RLFC, Super League (Europe) and the RFL that should be answering for this, not one player. RU probably is a bigger sport. Participation - bigger. Money - bigger. Profile - bigger. International game - bigger. When they start taking our talent it is the icing on the cake.

But it isn't better. RL is never going to be soccer, but it shouldn't be losing a competitive battle with an inferior game.

Re: Kyle on Granada reports now : Sat Mar 12, 2011 8:19 pm  

BigRedV wrote:

I was seething when I saw that interview and my initial reaction was to rail at Eastmond and call him all the names under the sun. But why?

If it were any other walk of life, I would applaud a talented, ambitious young man for taking an opportunity like that - something that he wants to do, earn more money, self development etc etc. It's because I am so passionate about RL (and utterly irritated by RU) that this whole situation hurts so much.

It is St Helens RLFC, Super League (Europe) and the RFL that should be answering for this, not one player. RU probably is a bigger sport. Participation - bigger. Money - bigger. Profile - bigger. International game - bigger. When they start taking our talent it is the icing on the cake.

But it isn't better. RL is never going to be soccer, but it shouldn't be losing a competitive battle with an inferior game.

GOOD POST MATE .It certainly is not a better game than our's,but on another subject I think Eastmond could have played his final game for Saints after that interview