Re: Joel Monaghan, would you? Could you? : Mon Nov 22, 2010 7:09 pm  

jdrocket wrote:

As someone mentions Wire are developing and are obsessed with winning, while to be blunt, Saints are stagnating.

Stagnating? How on earth do you get that impression?

Re: Joel Monaghan, would you? Could you? : Mon Nov 22, 2010 7:11 pm  

The Chief wrote:

Saints have an engrained ambition to turn out a team of 17 home grown players. They have to be applauded for the work they are doing with the local amateur clubs to bring through the next generation, but even so, I do accept there is a balancing act.

Only insofar as if Saints haven't been able to raise a player in a particular position who is of the right standard then Saints should look elsewhere to fill that position, but primarily within England and only if an English player can't be found, then from down under.

I'd love Saints to be the first club to field 17 home growns of the right standard to compete at the highest level in Superleague. That would be fantastic.

Re: Joel Monaghan, would you? Could you? : Mon Nov 22, 2010 7:16 pm  

Saints will bounce back strong, i think the stadium has just become an unwanted distraction off the field.

The team i think are on their way down are Leeds BM & JL as coaches ? 5th place at best for the Rhinos.

Although we have had 2 trophy winning season i still think we are off for another season or two BUT i think there will be a more consistent Warrington over the years.

Re: Joel Monaghan, would you? Could you? : Mon Nov 22, 2010 7:22 pm  

jdrocket wrote:

i am not saying saints didn't have the worst. but wire didn't have the best.

I think you'll find you did. Check the stats for amount of players used, Warrington used the least.

jdrocket wrote:

and yeah that last game of the year where Wire fielded some of the reserves at quins while saints ahd to fight tooth and nail and a few bent rules against cas. Wire could have probably nothed up a cricket score against quins.

That's not our fault you decided to rest a few. Maybe it's a lesson learnt as it backfired dramatically for you and we whooped you in round one.

jdrocket wrote:

oh and 2 fit half backs. if i wasn't poor i'd bet eastmond won't play 7 of the 27 rounds and Pryce wants to be Bradford ( and may well be) but you're right, they'll be tough.

2 props... i've heard perry is average [don't quote me on that though] and taking into account he will have to get used to St Helens (**shivers**) it may take a while.

But the year after it is bye bye Graham + Pryce, probabaly Eastmond, maybe Roby... the list goes on and on you know how many contracts end next year. I think it could be changing soon. But then again it isn't a hoodoo for nothing.

I love the blind hope Wire fans have each year. I heard similar things when Sculthorpe left, when Long left, now that Cunningham has left. Saints are finished, bla bla bla. The fact is, when we lose our best players we replace them or produce someone from our academy with excellent ability and potential. Saints are a well managed club and whilst we aren't winning things right now, we're not far off and with a new coach and new stadium / training facility to come our side will only get stronger.

It's difficult to judge Simmons yet, and I could be wrong on this, but I've got a feeling he'll get an extra gear out of us that Potter couldn't manage, which could make a big difference. I'm hoping we'll get more luck on the injury front.

Re: Joel Monaghan, would you? Could you? : Mon Nov 22, 2010 9:23 pm  

Joel Monaghan... Castleford 2011... then onto Warrington for 2012 onwards

Re: Joel Monaghan, would you? Could you? : Mon Nov 22, 2010 10:07 pm  

Mr. Messy wrote: Joel Monaghan... Castleford 2011... then onto Warrington for 2012 onwards Well we'd never have guessed. Rogues Gallery wrote: To Wire via Cas. http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/nrl/joel-monaghans-future-revealed/story-e6frep5x-1225958752098 Please pay attention.

Mr. Messy wrote: Joel Monaghan... Castleford 2011... then onto Warrington for 2012 onwards Well we'd never have guessed. Rogues Gallery wrote: To Wire via Cas. http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/nrl/joel-monaghans-future-revealed/story-e6frep5x-1225958752098 Please pay attention.

Re: Joel Monaghan, would you? Could you? : Mon Nov 22, 2010 10:12 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

Well we'd never have guessed.
Please pay attention.

Really couldn't be bothered scrolling through, too busy watching "Coppers"

Re: Joel Monaghan, would you? Could you? : Mon Nov 22, 2010 10:17 pm  

Try page 16 http://forums.rlfans.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=475706&start=225 You're not having a good night are you?

Try page 16 http://forums.rlfans.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=475706&start=225 You're not having a good night are you?

Re: Joel Monaghan, would you? Could you? : Tue Nov 23, 2010 4:55 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote: Try page 16 http://forums.rlfans.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=475706&start=225 You're not having a good night are you? Same as the above, couldn't be bothered scrolling through pages... was watching Coppers... filmed in Wakefield... did some Rugby League spotting and saw Richard Moore in the Background whilst a Copper was being interviewed!

Rogues Gallery wrote: Try page 16 http://forums.rlfans.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=475706&start=225 You're not having a good night are you? Same as the above, couldn't be bothered scrolling through pages... was watching Coppers... filmed in Wakefield... did some Rugby League spotting and saw Richard Moore in the Background whilst a Copper was being interviewed!

Re: Joel Monaghan, would you? Could you? : Tue Nov 23, 2010 7:29 pm  

Yed wrote:

King by most accounts will be back in Aus

Thats not what he was saying on Friday when he was chatting at a charity event.
He's not even gone back for Christmas yet and has every intention of being with dire next year.