Re: ***THE ONLY TROLLING THREAD*** : Sun Oct 03, 2010 7:39 pm  

St pete wrote:

12 points better in the grand final against a team with no halfbacks don't put you streets ahead mate.

No, it doesn't, but in fairness I don't think you can ever use a final as a yardstick.

The form book goes out of the window, it comes down to something else

Re: ***THE ONLY TROLLING THREAD*** : Sun Oct 03, 2010 7:52 pm  

St pete wrote:

I agree the score flatterd saints but i was replying to the comment that wigan are streets ahead of everyone which i don't agree with at all.

They are the best team in super league but by no means streets ahead of everyone.

A very fair summary.

Streets ahead is over-egging the pudding somewhat.

Re: ***THE ONLY TROLLING THREAD*** : Mon Oct 04, 2010 9:53 am  

Ask your coach or players to give Tony Smith a ring. That guy sure know's how to win the finals,.

Re: ***THE ONLY TROLLING THREAD*** : Mon Oct 04, 2010 3:05 pm  

St pete wrote:

I agree the score flatterd saints but i was replying to the comment that wigan are streets ahead of everyone which i don't agree with at all.

They are the best team in super league but by no means streets ahead of everyone.

Mate, I know you're a good poster and probably just defending your team but don't just look at the 12 point drubbing (and I use that word on purpose as the 12 points in no way reflects the dominance Wigan had in that game) and look at the league table. We were 6 points and over a hundred points difference better than Saints over the season as a whole! I think that is pretty comprehensive and whilst it is by no means a certainty that this will be the case next year eventhough it looks very possible, as we stand at the moment you would have to conclude Wigan are, in fact, streets ahead of Saints.

Now I know you like to point to injuries and to some degree it is justifiable, but Wigan have also been hit with injuries all season including to the form player early season, Amos Roberts. He has been unable to regain that form post injury but I think it fair to say Wigan would have been even more devastating had he not suffered the injury. At times this season we've had 7, 8 and even 9 players out at any one time but the difference is, the strength of the squad has meant it has had less of an impact than perhaps on yourselves. In fact squad players who only really came into the team through injuries have turned out to be among the most effective; Farrell and Goulding in particular.

The thing is with injuries is that some are unfortunate accidents, but others are a little more predictable. If your team is reliant on players such as Eastmond, Soliola and the like then injuries are increasingly likely to come into play. It was no different for Hull FC putting all their hopes in an injury plaugued Sean Long. That can't be seen in any way as 'unlucky'. Is the injury situation likely to be any different next year in your opinion with several players coming to the ends of their careers and looking to Eastmond as your guiding light?

Re: ***THE ONLY TROLLING THREAD*** : Tue Oct 05, 2010 3:37 am  

Wollyhood wrote:

Ask your coach or players to give Tony Smith a ring. That guy sure know's how to win the finals,.

pity he doesnt know how to beat saints though..

Re: ***THE ONLY TROLLING THREAD*** : Tue Oct 05, 2010 3:49 pm  

St pete wrote:

I find it funny that leeds fans have done a fair share of trlooing since we lost on saturday night.

Looking at the current leeds squad and lack of youth they now have at the club i'd be pretty worried.

Webb, senior and peacock all look finished and add ali to that, they will be lucky to make the top four next year.

It's a three horse race now with saints, wigan and warrington.

Leeds have turned into the team that many said saints would be.

Wishful thinking regarding leeds.

They'll be well in the mix next year, you'll just have to deal with it.

Re: ***THE ONLY TROLLING THREAD*** : Wed Oct 06, 2010 9:53 am  

Phuzzy wrote:

Mate, I know you're a good poster and probably just defending your team but don't just look at the 12 point drubbing (and I use that word on purpose as the 12 points in no way reflects the dominance Wigan had in that game) and look at the league table. We were 6 points and over a hundred points difference better than Saints over the season as a whole! I think that is pretty comprehensive and whilst it is by no means a certainty that this will be the case next year eventhough it looks very possible, as we stand at the moment you would have to conclude Wigan are, in fact, streets ahead of Saints.

Not disputing that Wigan are the better team now but the gap was 4 points in the league. So if Saints had won on Good Friday there would be no difference.

Hardly streets ahead, one game.

Re: ***THE ONLY TROLLING THREAD*** : Wed Oct 06, 2010 3:52 pm  

no,not streets ahead but it looks more positive for Wigan than it does for us imo - Mcguire is a good coach and Rads' input is a big factor I believe
with Leon & Kyle plus Soliola fit the difference between the teams is minimal, again imo

Re: ***THE ONLY TROLLING THREAD*** : Sat Oct 09, 2010 10:31 pm  

In fairness, given you had no halfbacks, you did pretty well.

That said, you have won zip for 4 years, and are on a downslope.

Those fans who expect success over the next 5 years will be very disappointed I feel.

Re: ***THE ONLY TROLLING THREAD*** : Sun Oct 10, 2010 7:55 am  

TheOtherOne wrote:

Not disputing that Wigan are the better team now but the gap was 4 points in the league. So if Saints had won on Good Friday there would be no difference.

Hardly streets ahead, one game.

IF, if, Wigan had won their home fixture it would have been 8 points?