Re: Saints V Salford : Fri May 30, 2014 10:58 pm  

You can send all the thank you cards to Leeds.

Re: Saints V Salford : Fri May 30, 2014 11:01 pm  

bewareshadows wrote:

You can send all the thank you cards to Leeds.

Or you and your tipping skills

Interestingly, were now 9 points ahead of where we were last year!

Re: Saints V Salford : Fri May 30, 2014 11:07 pm  

Magic Superbeetle wrote: Cunninghams report: http://www1.skysports.com/rugby-league/ ... 06/9332603? Aha, I called walker out too, so I'm keeping schtum but I still think he's the player with the least potential out of the 4 that have broken through so far Remember, though, that Cunningham is the forwards coach so he is bound to say they are great isn't he, whether or not they were! I can't say I disagree with him though on this occasion as the injuries left us with so much work to do yet so few bodies to do it.

Magic Superbeetle wrote: Cunninghams report: http://www1.skysports.com/rugby-league/ ... 06/9332603? Aha, I called walker out too, so I'm keeping schtum but I still think he's the player with the least potential out of the 4 that have broken through so far Remember, though, that Cunningham is the forwards coach so he is bound to say they are great isn't he, whether or not they were! I can't say I disagree with him though on this occasion as the injuries left us with so much work to do yet so few bodies to do it.

Re: Saints V Salford : Fri May 30, 2014 11:07 pm  

Magic Superbeetle wrote:

Interestingly, were now 9 points ahead of where we were last year!

That's the value of Luke Walsh and James Roby.

Re: Saints V Salford : Fri May 30, 2014 11:47 pm  

The Chair Maker wrote:

Those walsh tackles were down to brilliant play by Wellens. He really did position his self well to force the winger to slow down and adjust which allowed Walsh to chase back and effect the tackle.

Give over. How brilliant is positioning yourself in the right centre channel when the right winger is breaking on the half way line? It's not rocket science and nothing every other professional fullback wouldn't do. I'll tell you what, Wello's tackling was woeful tonight.

To be fair to him other than that he had a decent game. He runs good lines and against terrible sides like Salford he will still be effective running close to the line off the back of Walsh. He's a clever player and would have been a sensational player if he had any pace. Whilst him playing when Lomax is injured is okay, it's clearly not an option to leave him there, still killing moves tonight jogging onto balls out wide and putting the breaks on the momentum of the move.

Tonight showed just how pathetic Super League is. You could tell from the warm up that neither side was at all bothered about the game and it showed throughout as 34 players went through the motions with no real enthusiasm for the contest anywhere. Salford had no intention of beating us, just slowing everything down and avoiding a hammering. Their holding down, the number of high shots and the niggling was ridiculous. The refereeing was utterly embarassing tonight, he had no control over anything and the whole thing was shambolic. Salford should be ashamed of themselves, we had 1 player on the bench for most of the game and they put us under very little pressure. By the final 20 minutes we had several players on the field who were clearly injured, but they didn't seem to care about that or try to exploit it. At one stage Wheeler could barely walk and was defending alone on the blind side of the scrum. Be clever and run at him? No, go the other way and walk into a tackle one out. The players walked to scrums, had a drink, had a chat. When someone scored they did the same, taking an age to line up again.

The game kicked off at 8. The England game kicked off at 8 and Warrington's game did. England's game was 5 minutes longer due to the sport involved and Warrington's was on Sky with video ref calls. Saints game finished well after both of those games at gone ten to. Had that game been on Sky with video ref replays we'd probably still be there now.

As for how we played, better defensively tonight and ultimately a decent shift from the pack given the lack of a bench due to injuries. Wilkin was having an absolute stinker before he went off, the worst I've ever seen him play, although I found his lack of faith in Wello's pace particularly funny, not trusting him to make it from 20 yards out unopposed. Roby and Walsh were the stand outs for me but there were decent shifts from LMS, Thompson, Sia, Masoe.

Re: Saints V Salford : Fri May 30, 2014 11:54 pm  

Sia put 2 absolute bell ringer shots in. 1 should of been a penalty to Salford as it was late. However, I heard it from over 50yrds away.

Re: Saints V Salford : Sat May 31, 2014 5:48 am  

SaintsFan wrote:

I missed nothing of the sort. I didn't say it was classic rugby league. But how you could find such a gutsy win boring I'll never know. We were on one leg and battling against an opposition out to injure us all the time. For the spirit that we displayed when we had a halfback on the wing and a second rower at centre and half the team limping (or so it seemed) it was a good match to watch, not to mention the abuse we could give to Hicks who had a very poor showing.

I suggest you read Saddened more extensive report instead of trying to wrap the game up as a good one leg performance.

Re: Saints V Salford : Sat May 31, 2014 6:10 am  

Judder Man wrote:

I suggest you read Saddened more extensive report instead of trying to wrap the game up as a good one leg performance.

I suggest you actually read my posts before replying to them. Nowhere did I say it was a good performance. I said it was a gutsy one, which it most definitely was, and that I enjoyed it. In my original post I said it was 'awful in terms of skill'. You thought it was boring (with your 'z's). I disagreed with you because I enjoyed it for what it became - a real backs to the wall effort.

The match as a spectacle was awful and just two beauties of tries saved it from being utterly forgetable. We won in spite of all the injuries and disruption, and I think that is worth noting given our meek surrender at Magic and our overall poor showing in terms of guts and grit over the last few weeks.

How many players we will have fit for the Dragons game I've no idea but I'm very relieved we are not in the Cup as we are busted.

Re: Saints V Salford : Sat May 31, 2014 6:25 am  

SaintsFan wrote:

I suggest you actually read my posts before replying to them. Nowhere did I say it was a good performance. I said it was a gutsy one, which it most definitely was, and that I enjoyed it. In my original post I said it was 'awful in terms of skill'. You thought it was boring (with your 'z's). I disagreed with you because I enjoyed it for what it became - a real backs to the wall effort.

The match as a spectacle was awful and just two beauties of tries saved it from being utterly forgetable. We won in spite of all the injuries and disruption, and I think that is worth noting given our meek surrender at Magic and our overall poor showing in terms of guts and grit over the last few weeks.

How many players we will have fit for the Dragons game I've no idea but I'm very relieved we are not in the Cup as we are busted.

I think we will agree that there a certain levels of what is considered satisfactory.

Hopefully we will have Percival, Lomax, Swift and possibly Manu back for the Catalan game. Especially Manu now that we have lost a ball playing forward in the pack.

Re: Saints V Salford : Sat May 31, 2014 7:13 am  

Saddened! wrote:

The Chair Maker wrote:

Those walsh tackles were down to brilliant play by Wellens. He really did position his self well to force the winger to slow down and adjust which allowed Walsh to chase back and effect the tackle.

Give over. How brilliant is positioning yourself in the right centre channel when the right winger is breaking on the half way line? It's not rocket science and nothing every other professional fullback wouldn't do. I'll tell you what, Wello's tackling was woeful tonight.

To be fair to him other than that he had a decent game. He runs good lines and against terrible sides like Salford he will still be effective running close to the line off the back of Walsh. He's a clever player and would have been a sensational player if he had any pace. Whilst him playing when Lomax is injured is okay, it's clearly not an option to leave him there, still killing moves tonight jogging onto balls out wide and putting the breaks on the momentum of the move.

Tonight showed just how pathetic Super League is. You could tell from the warm up that neither side was at all bothered about the game and it showed throughout as 34 players went through the motions with no real enthusiasm for the contest anywhere. Salford had no intention of beating us, just slowing everything down and avoiding a hammering. Their holding down, the number of high shots and the niggling was ridiculous. The refereeing was utterly embarassing tonight, he had no control over anything and the whole thing was shambolic. Salford should be ashamed of themselves, we had 1 player on the bench for most of the game and they put us under very little pressure. By the final 20 minutes we had several players on the field who were clearly injured, but they didn't seem to care about that or try to exploit it. At one stage Wheeler could barely walk and was defending alone on the blind side of the scrum. Be clever and run at him? No, go the other way and walk into a tackle one out. The players walked to scrums, had a drink, had a chat. When someone scored they did the same, taking an age to line up again.

The game kicked off at 8. The England game kicked off at 8 and Warrington's game did. England's game was 5 minutes longer due to the sport involved and Warrington's was on Sky with video ref calls. Saints game finished well after both of those games at gone ten to. Had that game been on Sky with video ref replays we'd probably still be there now.

As for how we played, better defensively tonight and ultimately a decent shift from the pack given the lack of a bench due to injuries. Wilkin was having an absolute stinker before he went off, the worst I've ever seen him play, although I found his lack of faith in Wello's pace particularly funny, not trusting him to make it from 20 yards out unopposed. Roby and Walsh were the stand outs for me but there were decent shifts from LMS, Thompson, Sia, Masoe.

Utter tripe.

Took us ages to get out of the Car Park as well.