Re: Your Reaction to the Huddersfield Game : Thu May 29, 2014 11:57 pm  

Magic Superbeetle wrote:

Well called

Does this put our performance last week in a better light? I didn't think they were light years ahead of how they played against us - though players who didn't play against us had big games (Bailey in particular, who looks a more physical, stronger form of Wilkin)

Let's be honest bewareshadows and the bookies got it totally wrong. Hudds did to Wigan what we did to Hudds and what Warrington did to us.

We both returned watch more enthusiasm coming off the 10 with very fast line speed and making the opposition have less thinking time and more prone to errors.
If we keep the desire and enthusiasm up, we will not go far wrong with our squad.

As for the goons; they don't like it up them and have won their previous games recently by putting 100% effort in but when faced with the same level of competiveness, their youthfulness is not enough.

Re: Your Reaction to the Huddersfield Game : Fri May 30, 2014 5:25 am  

Anybody notice Ferres and pulling back the head of Bowen when scoring his try.

Re: Your Reaction to the Huddersfield Game : Fri May 30, 2014 11:30 am  

If I was going to predict anything wrong, it's always nice that it's a Wigan win.

I've not seen the game but from the reports it once again shows that when one side is up for the battle and the other side is assuming that they can just coast, they are going to get turned over in this league.

I truely saw nothing in Huddersfield last week that made me think they where a threat in the slightest.

Re: Your Reaction to the Huddersfield Game : Fri May 30, 2014 1:21 pm  

bewareshadows wrote:

If I was going to predict anything wrong, it's always nice that it's a Wigan win.

I've not seen the game but from the reports it once again shows that when one side is up for the battle and the other side is assuming that they can just coast, they are going to get turned over in this league.

I truely saw nothing in Huddersfield last week that made me think they where a threat in the slightest.

That's the way the league has gone due to the salary cap and quota. Any team can beat any team on their day. Look at Warrington, most thought we'd hammer them as they was playing really poor ok they did a good number on us.

Nobody give Wigan a chance going to Leeds with injury but team and they did them.

It gets a little harder when the play offs come around as Leeds and Wigan really up their game and that's where the good teams are sorted from the avg teams. IMO that's where we will fall apart as we can't seem to play on the big occasion these days and Leeds Wigan and Warrington have it down to a art.

Re: Your Reaction to the Huddersfield Game : Fri May 30, 2014 1:25 pm  

bewareshadows wrote:

You see you'd miss him if he was banned

Absolutely, he is like Simon off BGT, but nicer looking by far, he also supported Wigan as a lad

Re: Your Reaction to the Huddersfield Game : Fri May 30, 2014 1:26 pm  

St pete wrote:

That's the way the league has gone due to the salary cap and quota. Any team can beat any team on their day. Look at Warrington, most thought we'd hammer them as they was playing really poor ok they did a good number on us.

Nobody give Wigan a chance going to Leeds with injury but team and they did them.

It gets a little harder when the play offs come around as Leeds and Wigan really up their game and that's where the good teams are sorted from the avg teams. IMO that's where we will fall apart as we can't seem to play on the big occasion these days and Leeds Wigan and Warrington have it down to a art.

I disagree, we won't fall apart, we proved that in the playoffs last year by taking Leeds every step of the way, and we have the tools this year to take advantage of that - you'd be foolish to rule us out just yet...

Re: Your Reaction to the Huddersfield Game : Fri May 30, 2014 1:39 pm  

Magic Superbeetle wrote:

I disagree, we won't fall apart, we proved that in the playoffs last year by taking Leeds every step of the way, and we have the tools this year to take advantage of that - you'd be foolish to rule us out just yet...

My concern is that we will fall apart, it's in our DNA for few years. We've won nothing for long long time and the play offs showed last year this.

We've brought Mose, Amor and Walsh in which should improve us a hell of a lot if all play to their ability but this seasons big games we've failed again. Leeds sent us put the CC with ease. Wigan destroyed us on Good Friday and we was hammered at magic. Those are the 3 biggest occasions so far this year and we've come up short.

Even brown has commented that we need to get some aggression and fire into the team if we are to beat those teams.

I think we will scrape into top 4 but soon as it's a big play off game against Wigan, Leeds or wolves we will go out

Re: Your Reaction to the Huddersfield Game : Fri May 30, 2014 1:45 pm  

St pete wrote:

We've brought Mose, Amor and Walsh in which should improve us a hell of a lot if all play to their ability but this seasons big games we've failed again. Leeds sent us put the CC with ease. Wigan destroyed us on Good Friday and we was hammered at magic. Those are the 3 biggest occasions so far this year and we've come up short.

But how much of that was playing staff and how much of it coaching staff? Against Leeds we had Wilkin playing alongside Walsh - a new halfback pairing; against Wire we didn't play our strongest pack first and Wello only came on when the game was gone. We have the personnel to win the GF this year IMO. Whether we have the coach is another matter.

Even brown has commented that we need to get some aggression and fire into the team if we are to beat those teams.

Then he should fire them up. We saw by his attitude towards the GF derby that he doesn't do that so maybe he should nominate someone else to get them going.

I think we will scrape into top 4 but soon as it's a big play off game against Wigan, Leeds or wolves we will go out

I disagree. This isn't a foregone conclusion. We have a young, inexperienced team. I think out of our team Walsh, Masoe, Wilkin, Wello, Robes, Lomax and Makinson have played in finals rugby. Of those, only Lomax seems to panic under pressure. However, as can be seen by all the teams you mention, there was a time when they too were inexperienced in knock out rugby but they turned the corner and overcame their obstacles to get there. There is no reason to believe that now we have failed to overcome ours once, we won't learn from that failure and succeed next time.

Re: Your Reaction to the Huddersfield Game : Fri May 30, 2014 1:51 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

But how much of that was playing staff and how much of it coaching staff? Against Leeds we had Wilkin playing alongside Walsh - a new halfback pairing; against Wire we didn't play our strongest pack first and Wello only came on when the game was gone. We have the personnel to win the GF this year IMO. Whether we have the coach is another matter.

Then he should fire them up. We saw by his attitude towards the GF derby that he doesn't do that so maybe he should nominate someone else to get them going.

I disagree. This isn't a foregone conclusion. We have a young, inexperienced team. I think out of our team Walsh, Masoe, Wilkin, Wello, Robes, Lomax and Makinson have played in finals rugby. Of those, only Lomax seems to panic under pressure. However, as can be seen by all the teams you mention, there was a time when they too were inexperienced in knock out rugby but they turned the corner and overcame their obstacles to get there. There is no reason to believe that now we have failed to overcome ours once, we won't learn from that failure and succeed next time.

Don't get me wrong, I think we can win it but I just don't think we are tough enough to beat Wigan or Leeds in a big game. I think the wolves is 50/50 as they are little unpredictable.

We'd have to really up our game to beat Wigan who seem to just bully us out the game. Only time will tell.