Re: nice n easy.... : Tue Aug 07, 2012 8:45 pm  

Wollyhood wrote:

winning the GF is the yardstick. Not appearing in it.

Well Saints can cover both angles of viewpoint winning it or appearance. Obviously from some wire fans perspective winning it 4 times in the past has far less significance on winning it once some time in the future.

Re: nice n easy.... : Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:04 pm  

Wollyhood wrote:

The five point gap on the league table, another cc final appearance, a trophy the past three years whilst Saints have gone trophyless over that period is a great indication of form is temporary, class is permanent. Stop taking life and this site so seriously. You'll never get out alive.

What the **** has that got to do with anything? Warrington are a class apart from Saints at the moment and only a fool could argue otherwise. Our only hope of beating you in the playoffs is if you freeze again.

The point actually being made is simply that, in my opinion, our starting 10 forwards are marginally superior to yours. Not by much, but marginally. This is evidenced by the fact that we are likely to finish comfortably 3rd and at absolute bare minimum 4th despite having no halves, no gameplan besides barge x 5 + aimless kick, no kicking game and a barely adequate 3/4 line - our pack has carried us to that position by more or less exclusively one-up, one-man rugby the whole season and beaten everyone doing so except for you and the Pies. If that doesn't prove the strength of our pack as a unit then I struggle to see what would...

Re: nice n easy.... : Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:27 pm  

Wollyhood wrote:

winning the GF is the yardstick. Not appearing in it.

I wonder why you would say that?

Perhaps that amongst other bliningly obvious facts, you have neither won it nor been in it

Next you will be advising us that the pope is a christian and that bears go to the toilet in wooded areas.
Your attmept at subterfuge is poor.

Re: nice n easy.... : Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:29 pm  

First loser, 4th, 5th, 6th, 8362729th, still win nothing.

Re: nice n easy.... : Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:31 pm  

Horatio Yed wrote:

First loser, 4th, 5th, 6th, 8362729th, still win nothing.

I'm sorry. Are you drunk?

Re: nice n easy.... : Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:32 pm  

Horatio Yed wrote:

First loser, 4th, 5th, 6th, 8362729th, still win nothing.

Sorry, sorry, I misread it.

I didn't realise you were talking about Wire.

Apologies.

Re: nice n easy.... : Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:35 pm  

Horatio Yed wrote:

First loser, 4th, 5th, 6th, 8362729th, still win nothing.

The point some are making is we have won it, 4 times indeed. Wire are yet to even feature.

Re: nice n easy.... : Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:42 pm  

Because we were a club on the brink for a sizable amount of superleague, mid table for another and only really been contenders since 2010, not because we are bottlers but because we simply were not good enough to compete with the top 4-5 teams in the league, remember you buying players like Sculthorpe and Fozzard of us, and losing quality players like Harris to Leeds.

Bottlers is a myth, the majority of games we have played in the playoffs we've always been the bookies underdogs, only one i think we went into favourite was last year.

Ateotd though, you played an extra game for the same reward, bugger all, and 5 losing finals is the same as not being in them.

Re: nice n easy.... : Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:52 pm  

Horatio Yed wrote:

Because we were a club on the brink for a sizable amount of superleague, mid table for another and only really been contenders since 2010, not because we are bottlers but because we simply were not good enough to compete with the top 4-5 teams in the league, remember you buying players like Sculthorpe and Fozzard of us, and losing quality players like Harris to Leeds.

Bottlers is a myth, the majority of games we have played in the playoffs we've always been the bookies underdogs, only one i think we went into favourite was last year.

Ateotd though, you played an extra game for the same reward, bugger all, and 5 losing finals is the same as not being in them.

I'm not saying you're not on the brink of achieving it, just it's laughable that a contingent of your fans can even question our record in the GF having never been in it. It's akin to somebody at home watching the Olympics saying coming 4th in the 100 metre sprint is rubbish.

Edit: A participant going out in the semi finals saying finishing 4th is rubbish is probably more accurate.

Re: nice n easy.... : Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:57 pm  

Horatio Yed wrote:

5 losing finals is the same as not being in them.

No, it's actually a lot more expensive than not having been in them, trust me