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Re: Surprise! Surprise! No changes ... : Thu May 31, 2012 1:57 pm  
Mugwump wrote:
It's all well and good for McManus and Rush to be thinking of picking experienced players over rookies to win this game and that. But if we're out of the competition anyway the only thing winning alone guarantees is a few extra quid at the end of the season. The missing element here is ENTERTAINMENT.
One thing that, i always feel, boost the feeling of satisfaction amongst fans is young players getting their chance. We've established we've got a solid pack to work with, we've established Rush and KC aren't under pressure to deliver a trophy, or even finish top 4 - so why not use the exciting set of young backs!?
Gaskell, Jones, Makinson (not on the wing), Swift, Foster and Ashe aswell as Lomax and Wheeler can help make a very able back line.
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Re: Surprise! Surprise! No changes ... : Thu May 31, 2012 2:11 pm  
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One thing that, i always feel, boost the feeling of satisfaction amongst fans is young players getting their chance. We've established we've got a solid pack to work with, we've established Rush and KC aren't under pressure to deliver a trophy, or even finish top 4 - so why not use the exciting set of young backs!?


I think he's probably under pressure from McManus who at the start of the season unequivocally stated this team is a title contender.
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Re: Surprise! Surprise! No changes ... : Thu May 31, 2012 2:18 pm  
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I think he's probably under pressure from McManus who at the start of the season unequivocally stated this team is a title contender.

Only if someone else knocks Wigan out of the playoffs.
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Re: Surprise! Surprise! No changes ... : Thu May 31, 2012 2:54 pm  
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Last time I looked we were sixth in the table, five points behind Cats in third and have a stretch of games which could help us to get up to fourth if we win them all (especially with Cats and the Giants game straight after them). Given that we've only lost to Wigoon (comfortably admittedly) I think there's a degree of panic among those who appear to have some sort of inferiority complex about the pies.

Of course there are some problems that need to be addressed i.e. defence, but all this talk of apocalypse is naughty and bad form. We may not win anything this season but after Simmons leaving pretty much all of us had written off this season anyway and now, because of those two wins at the start of their reign, people are going mad and losing their cool. There's too many Joffreys in here and not enough Tyrions.



I'm not panicing, I also thought we had a good chance of winning the GF last year and I reckon we will still squeeze inside the top 4. I think compared to the rest of SL, we are playing effective, if not thrilling RL at the moment, but that is because we are focusing pretty much everything through the pack.

I actually think the defense is generally very good, but when we have come up against the pies this year there has been an unfathomable collapse of that defense.

We have IMO improved since Royce left, and like I say I still think we'll make the top 4, but even when we played Leeds last week and won convincingly, the halves and outside backs where still the main issue.

So it depends on the question asked.

Are KC & MR doing a better job than Royce? Yes
Could Saints perform even better this year? Yes
Will Saints win the GF? No
Should Lance be playing half? No
Should we look at certain positions for next year? Yes
Will Saints be a force again for Trophies? Yes
Are Saints playing effective Rugby? Yes
Are Saints playing entertaining Rugby? -----
Do we need Cladding?? :BEAT:
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Re: Surprise! Surprise! No changes ... : Thu May 31, 2012 3:05 pm  
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There's too many Joffreys in here and not enough Tyrions.
Nice quote, but Tyrion wasn't looking too clever at the end of Monday's episode.
Am I the only one that thinks he has a look of Brian Carney about him?
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Re: Surprise! Surprise! No changes ... : Thu May 31, 2012 3:15 pm  
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Nice quote, but Tyrion wasn't looking too clever at the end of Monday's episode.
Am I the only one that thinks he has a look of Brian Carney about him?


:lol:

He does indeed.

He wasn't looking too clever but he's got some big balls for a little guy, unlike Joffrey the wet lettuce.

That wildfire bomb ship tactic was genius.
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Re: Surprise! Surprise! No changes ... : Thu May 31, 2012 3:23 pm  
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He does indeed.

He wasn't looking too clever but he's got some big balls for a little guy, unlike Joffrey the wet lettuce.

That wildfire bomb ship tactic was genius.

I'm loving it.

Does any one else watch is with their missus?
"Who's he? Who's she?"
"They're brother and sister, he was lovers with Stannis's little brother but she actually married him. That was before the shadow demon killed him, you know, the one the witch gave birth to."
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Re: Surprise! Surprise! No changes ... : Thu May 31, 2012 3:28 pm  
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I'm loving it.

Does any one else watch is with their missus?
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"They're brother and sister, he was lovers with Stannis's little brother but she actually married him. That was before the shadow demon killed him, you know, the one the witch gave birth to."
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Thankfully not, I couldn't be dealing with the questions.

Plus I'd have to pick my jaw up everytime Daenerys Targaryen comes onto the screen, as it is now, I can leave it hanging.
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Re: Surprise! Surprise! No changes ... : Thu May 31, 2012 6:27 pm  
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Given that we've only lost to Wigoon (comfortably admittedly) I think there's a degree of panic among those who appear to have some sort of inferiority complex about the pies.

So the losses to Hull, Bradford and Hudds weren't losses then? We are by no means comfortable in sixth and I'm not remotely convinced that we will beat Warrington next time either unless there is an amazing turnaround in the attitude of our senior players. Given that we are now over halfway in the season and that attitude has persisted, I don't hold out much hope. Last season we didn't know which team was going to walk on to the pitch and with there being so many young players involved we developed a backs to the wall mentality (the team and the fans!). This year, however, we have had most of our senior players available for most of the season and yet on Sunday we manage to produce our biggest loss against Wigan since 2001 (apparently). That hardly inspires confidence.
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Re: Surprise! Surprise! No changes ... : Thu May 31, 2012 7:21 pm  
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So the losses to Hull, Bradford and Hudds weren't losses then? We are by no means comfortable in sixth and I'm not remotely convinced that we will beat Warrington next time either unless there is an amazing turnaround in the attitude of our senior players. Given that we are now over halfway in the season and that attitude has persisted, I don't hold out much hope. Last season we didn't know which team was going to walk on to the pitch and with there being so many young players involved we developed a backs to the wall mentality (the team and the fans!). This year, however, we have had most of our senior players available for most of the season and yet on Sunday we manage to produce our biggest loss against Wigan since 2001 (apparently). That hardly inspires confidence.



The thread is about no changes by the current coaching team,we HAVE only lost to Wigan with the current coaching team.
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